Comment: A writer asks, “I want to understand how I can cope with myself. I cannot help telling the truth to people. I feel bad if I hide it and, therefore, I constantly break up relations; I speak the truth. I do not know what to do.” This is such a heartfelt cry.

My Response: This is not a heartfelt cry. It is a cry of egoism because he wants to impose his opinion on others. He believes that he understands the state of others, their wrong state, their possible correct state, and he wants to impose his understanding on them. This is absolute egoism that must simply be destroyed within oneself.

Who gives you the right to impose your opinion, your feelings, and your tastes on others?! Do they expect this from you?! Even if you think that this will make you better, it still does not give you the right to approach them and start filling them with your reasoning, tastes, goals, and so on.

Comment: I must say that there are a lot of people who think so.

My Response: This is such upbringing.

Question: Is there, generally speaking, such a truth that needs to be told to a person?

Answer: Truth is only in giving a person freewill so that he chooses his truth and that’s all. This is the most important thing in raising children and in relationships between adults as well.

Question: How can we do it?

Answer: Teach a person the technique of the correct revelation of life. If it were so, then we would all live perfectly, and so it will be someday.

Question: What if a person has a 100% belief that he is right and is simply obliged to pass it on to another?

Answer: Then he must shut himself up and swallow himself in order not to choke on his own truth!

What egoism he has! This egoism does not even allow him to feel it. The only thing that a person can do is to simply understand how selfish he is, that he is obliged to fill another with his opinion.

It’s horrible! This is stated very simply: “The highest limit of wisdom is in silence.”

Question: That is, you are better off keeping quiet at this moment?

Answer: Yes.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 3/15/21

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Comment: Oleg writes: “After watching your clip about the way to relate to evil, I do not know what to think. What does it mean to destroy evil? In this case, could you please comment on the words of a famous song [translated from Russian]: ‘We will destroy the whole world of violence to the ground and then we will build our new world, who was nobody —he will become everything!'”

Answer: This is wrong. We do not need to destroy anything; we need to add, to build, over the past: love will cover all crimes. Over all problems and deformities of the past world, we just need to cover them with a kind attitude and love.

If we destroy, we make it twice as bad. This is exactly what we have now.

Question: How do you do that? How do you cover with love?

Answer: We must never touch evil! We must not try to increase or decrease it. We must only build goodness over it. Connect with each other in goodness. And evil, it exists to lead us to this. That is, we will suddenly begin to discover that evil forces us to do good.

Question: So, the world of violence will remain?

Answer: No, it will not remain. After all, we are already engaged with something else. We are already building goodness! But over the former evil. We will create the world of goodness above the world of violence. Otherwise, we will be just destroying.

Remark: What about the next phrase: “Who was nobody —he will become everything!”

Answer: The one who was nothing really becomes seemingly everything. But inside, he remains nothing. This is first.

And second, what kind of world will you build if you do not take into account the past egoistic world that you destroyed? You need to take it and build a new world out of it, over it, in spite of it.

Question: What about the one who was nothing and that is how he felt, that he was nothing, so depressed and desperate, who does he become if he can really rise above this state of his? Can he become everything?

Answer: He can become everything. This depends only on his evaluation of his actions.

Question: How should he evaluate them?

Answer: That he builds, he makes, he creates. This does not mean that he becomes the head of state and begins to destroy everyone and everything. This suggests that serious, intelligent people such as Professor Preobrazhensky from the “Heart of a Dog” should understand what they are doing and realize what kind of world they are building.

Comment: If a person feels like nothing, how can he become everything?

My Response: By his attitude to the world, his attitude to his deeds. If he builds, then he becomes everything. It does not depend on how many people he kills, dispossesses, and deports along the way. The new world is not built by preparing execution lists. You cannot build anything by this.

As a result, you build a system that will be a curse for centuries to come. You break people, you break the system, you break the country, half the world, you plant your egoistic values everywhere. You think they are unshakable.

Question: Does everything have to start from education?

Answer: Of course.

Question: What should this education include? That a person understands what he is like?

Answer: A person understands that nothing needs to be destroyed but to be built. The new is always built upon the old. This new thing created from the old grows out of the old. It already manifests itself as an addition to the old. Or even if the old is denied but the new grows out of it correctly, it does not destroy anything.

Question: Many called the great Kabbalist Baal HaSulam a communist. What did he mean by communism?

Answer: Connection of all without any distinction. This was the first sign of communism for him. Then, of course, taking care of everyone without exception: providing work, housing, everything that a person needs.

The most important thing is the correct, fair connection of people with each other on equal terms.
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There is nothing more whole than a broken heart; there is no greater scream than silence; there is nothing more upright than a crooked ladder. (Rabbi Menachem Mendel of Kotzk)

Comment: In this quotation, everything seems to contradict each another.

My Response: This all happens when a person is looking for the truth and he understands that it is impossible to get to it by a direct path. And it is only possible when you go against logic, against the opinions of those around you and your own, as well.

Question: Is this called a “broken heart”?

Answer: Yes, not in your pride to overcome all this and put yourself above others. You are looking and you are looking and you are looking. And you have the willpower to agree with what is against you. You try to find a truth that would be against you. That is, you investigate everything, and you see that everything in you resists.

And then, when it resists, it is necessary to check well, to dig deeper into yourself, because here, perhaps, there will be a way out like that of Pinocchio, a passage to this magical world.

Question: What does “there is nothing more whole than a broken heart” mean to you?

Answer: These are shattered desires, shattered hopes, shattered attitudes toward the world you are accustomed to.

Question: Why is there nothing more whole than a broken heart?

Answer: Because after you are disappointed, you give up your old dogmas and you can find the real path.

Question: And what does “there is no greater scream than silence” mean?

Answer: Because if it is quiet, then it is not good. This means that your ego agrees with something here. So you should check well.

Question: Is there an inner cry? If so, is everything correct?

Answer: Yes.

Comment: And what does it mean “there is nothing more upright than a crooked ladder”?

My Response: A ladder cannot be straight at all, it always stands at an angle. Otherwise, a person cannot climb. So a crooked ladder is a straight ladder that stands at an angle and leads upward. Only on it can you climb.
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You are asked a question on Instagram:

I am a dancer. I am 31 years old. I work as a coach with children and in the course of my work I came to the conclusion that the main principle for me is not to harm or break the child. Also, the sport of dancing itself is not about dancing, but about what I can teach children for their future life. This is the way I think.

My question is: how can I guide and help them to be able to find themselves in the future? How can I make sure I don’t break or kill the uniqueness with which they come to me? How should I define my task with each child? How should I understand what each child needs me for if they have come to me?

Different types of children come; those who are incredibly talented dancers and those who shouldn’t train at all. Nevertheless, we met each other for a reason, although, perhaps I am mistaken about this. Please help me figure this out. With great respect, Yegor.

Answer: Here is my answer. First, everyone who comes to you is led to you. The upper force leads them; there are no accidents in the world. Therefore, you should value each child, not only because he is especially suited to dancing, but due to the fact that he was led to you.

Your next step is very important. Maybe he will leave you now and will not return again; however, the coming to you and leaving you will also play a certain, possibly big, role  in his life.

You are already becoming a participant in his destiny. Therefore, you must make his imagination of you, of dancing, and of your art remain positive, even though it is fleeting. This is the first thing.

Second, try to give him the impression that dancing forms a person, that a person wants to express himself through dancing.

Dancing is, one might say, the oldest, most stable, and natural expression of oneself. Primitive peoples danced around the fire with each other. Doves whirl with each other and so on. It’s all in the dance. It is not through speech which was created later, but dancing.

That is, dance is an internal expression of the soul’s impulses and aspirations. Therefore, it is a very serious language from within nature, very deep, and the most natural.

Ballet can express any aspirations, desires, and feelings including empathy. There’s no need to say anything. If it’s a real action, then literally any movement of one’s little finger or turn of one’s head means everything!

Dance is a whole science. We know that there is a science of facial expressions and movements. All of this is connected with the nature of man, with one’s place of residence, and so on. This is a very deep conversation that is very far from us today. Today we are blocked from all of this.

Dance is an expression of the soul. This can astonish a person, infect, tie to oneself, drag away, or subdue.

Question: It’s beautiful! Have you ever learned how to dance?

Answer: No. I just understand it. I have some kind of inner yearning that people do not wield it, including me.

A lot can be said about this because there is no layering from all kinds of schools or periods of history. It is actually the language of the soul.

Question: Yegor also asks: “How can one preserve the uniqueness of each child who comes?”

Answer: To do this, you need to be a very serious teacher and only take a couple of students and no more, as the ancient sages did. They did not run huge schools. There were those like Rabbi Akiva’s, of course, but usually there were two or three people whom a sage taught and that was all.

Dance is actually a language. I’m not talking about modern ballet. I’m talking about what can be expressed through movement.

Question: That is, by teaching dance, one can actually raise a sage?

Answer: Of course! This is not dancing; one teaches the language of communication with other people. Besides communication, we do not need anything, in principle. This is the correction of the world. So, in fact, dance, as the science of Kabbalah teaches, is simply a high level thing.

This rapprochement is sensory, without words, and even without music. It is an expression that is not superficial, although both words and music can complement it. When it’s expressed correctly, the body movement is sufficient. We see that dancing is everything to animals. One animal sees another and they understand each other and interact.

Question: What should be the goal of a teacher who teaches this language of communication, dance?

Answer: Language is also very specific. It is impossible to impose a language on a person because every language is limited; it is violence. One makes him express himself exactly in this way. In movement and dance, if a person completely relaxes, then one can express oneself, and the rest will understand him precisely because he expresses himself and that is all.

Question: Meaning, the task of the teacher, in general, is for the learner to be in the dance?

Answer: Of course. Precisely to free himself from any external constraints.

Question: How is it? This is impossible to teach!

Answer: You teach only how you can free yourself from your inner limitations. Then, you can already sing your own way and express yourself. There is nothing here! The others just have to cancel themselves as much as possible, enter you and your understanding of some inner experience, and then they will understand your dance.

Without music, without words, without anything—just movements.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 1/25/21

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Question: New research shows that after the birth of a child parents are less happy. About a million parents were interviewed. Parents talk about financial difficulties, about needing a bigger apartment and a bigger car, that children require money, and so on.

What do you think about the news that parents do not feel happier after the birth of a child but the opposite?

Answer: There is no family. A family is when there are three generations. These three generations are not together. The three generations are the grandparents, the father, the mother, and the newborn. They provide the correct foundation, confidence, knowledge of childcare, family structure, and support to the family in everything. They should be an example, they should live together.

In modern apartments, of course, there is no room for this. However, it is desirable to live together. Otherwise, you will not understand what a family should be like, its origin, and the way it existed for thousands of years.

Question: Do children feel that their parents are not very happy about the fact that they had children?

Answer: Of course! The child feels it perfectly; he feels the entire surrounding atmosphere.

Comment: That is, even if they are talking quietly in the kitchen: “Look, we need to spend more money, we need to change the apartment. Why did we do this?”

My Response: All of it is reflected in everything. The child was in the mother’s womb, and now he is in a larger space and feels this space.

Question: So, if there are such thoughts, do they all influence him?

Answer: He feels them all, absorbs, and reacts accordingly.

Question: Even if parents think that it has become harder for them, how should they behave?

Answer: It does not matter that it is harder. They must be prepared that it will be harder. Of course, it will be harder! It becomes harder every day, and it will be harder for them until they die. They cannot escape it, this baby will get bigger and bigger, demand more and more, and so on.

However, they must understand all this and support each other for the sake of the child’s development. This is a very complex system, and it must be supported by society, the government, and the family. And certainly by the closest family!

Question: And what then is the joy of bearing a child?

Answer: To see your future in it, that children are born, and that they will be the continuation of the family. I am not talking about anything spiritual but simple everyday life.

Question: How did this gradually disappear?

Answer: Our egoism has separated us, divided us, put everyone in his own corner, and that is it. This is how it works. It is good for the ego when each of us is inside of himself and cares only about it.

Comment: And even about him, the closest and dearest one, we say that he is a burden to us.

My Response: He is not the closest and dearest. We say that he is a burden to us, he prevents me from taking care of my child, the one within me!

Question: Does it mean that my “I” is the closest and dearest?

Answer: Yes.

Question: What have we come to! I wonder what will happen next?

Answer: It is going to get worse. We will get to the point where we will all run to different corners, hide in our own corner, and not want to communicate with anyone! That is all! I will just be ordering myself a pizza and a coke, or something like that.

Question: And what will happen next?

Answer: Humanity must see the dead-end. Once we realize that this is a dead-end, then revelation will come from this dead-end: that we cannot continue like this.

I think we need to come to an understanding. That is, there should not be wars, there should not be any riots, excesses, but there should be clear awareness of the hopelessness and utter futility, and then we will start thinking: “What should we do?” Then we will remember: “Wait, I have heard something from Kabbalists.”

Question: “There is a book on my shelf, there is a clip,” and so on. Will a person look at it and start moving toward correction?

Answer: I am sure of it.

Question: So we must put everything on shelves, in computers?

Answer: Of course! We have no other choice.

Question: Even if we come to the same conclusions all the time?

Answer: It does not matter. If you have a small child who is growing and developing, you still have to tell him what to do, how to behave correctly. You cannot just leave it.

Question: In what will the correction of humanity be?

Answer: In learning to come closer to each other. They need to come out of seclusion, from their corners, and connect with each other in the right way. In the end, they will discover in these right connections the positive force of nature, the Creator.

Question: Why have we not discovered this until now?

Answer: We did not need it. There was no recognition of the evil of our nature. Everything was all right. We had everything: sports, football, all sorts of lures, everything you want, everything you need. Live peacefully and enjoy.

Question: Will there be a greater need to connect?

Answer: There will be no choice. Only hopelessness will lead humanity to the solution that there is a need to change the paradigm.

Question: If a person can hear you now, what decision should he make and what should he think about?

Answer: What the right life should be and what needs to be changed to make it happen. And to see that it is not so difficult. All the means for it are there. Let’s do it!
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 3/8/21

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Question: One is tired of bad news in all the media today. So now there are sites that present only good news. How do you feel about entering good sites and getting good news?

Answer: It is like Vysotsky sang: “We would only need to be injected and fall asleep.”

Question: To inject and forget. That is, only good news will not help?

Answer: You can, but this will be exactly the case.

Question: How should it be? We need to sift through all this bad news? How can I live with all this?

Answer: You have to live right. If the attitudes are correct, then you can meet the worst news and it will not kill you.

Of course, you understand what the world is. But this is only if you know that you must act in order to correct this world.

A person should relate to the world like this world is given to him for correction. It is specially distorted, disfigured, painted black.

And we must make this world a better place. And we have been given a force for this, the higher force of nature, the positive force, which is absent in our world because we do not attract it.

We must feel how a negative, egoistic force operates in our world at all levels of nature: still, vegetative, animate, and human. This egoistic force of nature is triggered by people at the highest level, human, and from this level it acts on the animate, vegetative, and even inanimate forces.

And if a person begins to understand that when in correct relation to others he causes the positive force of nature, then two forces manifest in our world and we will see their result.

The main task of man is to attract this positive force of nature by him acting the same way in our world. He will think about it. Even one thought is enough: I want a positive force to manifest in our world. If we think so, it will manifest itself. And nothing else is needed.

The greatest power is the power of thought, the desire of man.

Question: And then, when reading this horror, this terrible, bad news, what will I feel?

Answer: That they are actually given to you so that you evoke the positive force and balance the positive and negative forces all the time, not destroying negative forces ,but only attracting compensatory positive forces to them.

And there is no need to destroy the past world and build a new one. You only need to add goodness.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 2/18/21

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Comment: I heard about a serious terrorist attack in Sri Lanka in which 253 people were killed. It turned out that this attack shocked the whole population, especially because it was carried out by intelligent terrorists, as the media called them, people who were highly educated and who came from rich families, not from the lower socioeconomic parts of society.

The same thing happened in a terrorist attack on a synagogue near San Diego where a 19-year-old kept shooting until his gun got stuck, and if it hadn’t been for that, he could have killed everyone in the synagogue. He was a student in medical school and also studied music. We see even higher education has little impact in this sense.

My Response: Education does not guarantee anything since education is not upbringing. It is educated people who build nuclear bombs. Educated people build weapons. It is actually educated people who do that.

Question: Exactly. Why don’t we speak about them?

Answer: We sometimes speak about different tribes that fight against each other, but eventually they don’t destroy each other because if they had, we would not be in the state we are in today as descendants of those tribes.

We need to understand that our evolution is based on egoistic development. So the greater egoists we become, the more we improve all kinds of weapons in order to destroy each other more cruelly. You could not picture the Holocaust in the Middle Ages, for example.

Question: Does this mean that the more educated we are the more cruelly we treat others?

Answer: Of course.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 5/14/19

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Comment: Iliya writes to us: “I watched your video clip where you say that if you want to help someone, you must not expect any kind attitude, or gift, or gratitude, not even simple “thank you,” nothing. This is what you call real help. But this is impossible. To do something good and not to expect at least a grateful glance or a smiley face for it. Dear Michael Laitman, this is utopia! You have to agree that this just cannot be!”

My Response: I understand you. It is really very difficult, even impossible. However, if at the same time you think that you are bringing a good force, a good state into the world, then your self-esteem, the greatness of your action, will increase.

Question: Does pride also increase at the same time?

Answer: No. Provided you think that you want to make the world better, to bring kindness to the world.

Question: If I do a good deed and think that I will get a thank you, some gift, even a small smiley face, or at least a grateful look, do you think this is not a good deed?

Answer: You are doing business at the same time. One will say thank you, give you a look, a woman will smile, a child too.

Comment: And right away I begin to feel good.

My Response: Yes, of course.

Comment: What you are suggesting is a very tall order.

My Response: No. Anyone in the world can say that our world needs kindness or it will fall apart, and let us arrange so that we just think about how to bring good actions, deeds, and good force into it. Let us do it and be thankful that our egoism allowed us to do it.

Comment: That sounds really nice.

My Response: Yes. Is this a big deal? Can you do this?

Comment: But I am an egoist by nature.

My Response: But you do give pleasure to your egoism: “I will do good for the world.” I can respect myself for this.

Question: Does this require some kind of preliminary education or is a person really capable of it?

Answer: I need to calibrate myself so that I respect myself for this.

Question: How will the world change then?

Answer: The world will change for the better. I will suddenly begin to see a lot of good in the world instead of what I see today, that there is only evil in it.

Question: Is it just because I changed my intention?

Answer: Yes. After all, it all depends on how I look at the world.

Question: That is, I am changing and the world is changing?

Answer: Exactly!

Question: Is it possible?

Answer: It depends on you! So, it is possible.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 2/18/21

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Question: German scientists are wondering when the end of civilization will begin? Why did such civilizations as the Chinese Empire and the Roman Empire collapse? They also ask: “Why do we think that our civilization can avoid such a fate?” Why?

Answer: They have not collapsed; they have simply transformed into other ones.

Comment: German scientists have come to the following conclusions: The weak point of modern societies is that their systems are closely intertwined with each other and problems in one place cause an immediate response in another place. Disaster researchers have long advocated for vital goods, such as food, to be produced locally. They are saying: “The whole problem is that we are connected!”

My Response: I do not really want to deal with German scientists and their dialectics. I will just say one thing: we need to understand where we are and by what laws of nature we must act. Nothing will help us, even if we try to somehow accept the laws of nature or maneuver inside them to avoid blows.

We must understand what our fate depends on. Our fate ultimately depends only on ourselves. It depends only on the way we will become similar to the general law of nature, the law of the absolute connection of all parts of creation with each other. But instead, this absolute connection passes through people, and in people it gets cut off.

There is inanimate, vegetative, and animate nature, and all of it is also connected with human nature, which is the fourth degree. This degree does not provide the connection, it acts only for its own sake and not as a complement to the others. No part of nature does anything that kills the rest of the parts.

Inanimate, vegetative, and animate nature use each other. They eat and use each other in order to exist and in turn feed others. That is how it is done. However, we violate this law of the universal cycle. It turns out that humans are the main pests of nature.

How can we nevertheless turn ourselves into an integral, good, and normal part of nature? Only if we study this nature, understand its laws, and follow them. This means consuming exactly as much as we need at the animalistic level, only to sustain life and no more!

Because on our level, on the level of our body, we are animals. If we are animals, then we should behave like them, that is, consume no more than our animalistic body requires. No more and no less, just enough. This is the first condition.

The second condition is that we must do no harm to any of the surrounding nature in any way. This means to any of its degrees—inanimate, vegetative, animate, not to mention human. Not to harm any part of nature!

We should only consume what we need, like any nature. No more than that. If we consume more, it will be to our detriment. Plant a tree without water, what will happen to it? Plant it so that it is drowned in the water, what will happen to it? It needs as much as it needs. So do we.

Therefore, knowing and maintaining this inner balance between us and the surrounding nature is a necessity without which we will not survive. It does not matter to us what the scientists say and what they prescribe to us.

Comment: But they reason with human logic. If we are interconnected and the virus originated somewhere, then it immediately spreads around the world.

My Response: What can you do? You cannot go against the dialectic, against the fact that the connection between us is constantly developing. You cannot go against that. You just need to know how you can make this connection beneficial to humanity. That is all.

Comment: This thought has lived in people for centuries. That is probably why religions appeared that banned excessive consumption. This is why dictatorships appeared that wanted to equalize humanity. Nothing came of it. Nothing!

MyResponse: I am not proposing to suppress a person. I am proposing to teach people the integral law of nature. Then a person will behave correctly because one will see how much he affects nature for good or bad. This, however, depends on people’s awareness of the environment in which we live on this small planet.

Question: So, will we be brought to this, one way or another? We have already come close, and we will be brought to this, right?

Answer: Of course.

Question: What should be the correct education if we want to move forward peacefully, not by pressure? How to make a person use only what he needs?

Answer: Only through integral development of all people in full, correct, and good connection with each other. Without the use of any violence!

If we do not come to this, then nature will teach us in a different way.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 1/14/21

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Question: There is this problem in the world: people cannot find a reliable life partner. So there are many dating sites, people are searching for each other in the media. Still, most of the time, they find no one.

In Japan, they even introduced artificial intelligence to match pairs according to character, genetics, emotions, and so on. How do you feel about matchmaking?

Answer: Positively. What is good in the fact that some guy starts a love relationship with a girl? What happens there? They have children, they are forced to marry.

It is better if there is a matchmaking origination where they look in advance who is suitable for whom. Humanity has existed continuously and for many thousands of years in this way in all cultures. There is none of it today.

Comment: In England, there is a method of determining by smell: you come in, you smell something and say “This is my smell.” And they say: “This smell suits this girl. Or this guy.”

My Response: This is very important to us. The cells that react to smell cover a big area in the brain.

Question: Can it be that this British method is quite advanced?

Answer: It is not advanced. It is natural and old.

Question: Does it mean that to a large extent, I even determine my partner by smell?

Answer: Undoubtedly!

There is no doubt that by this we are attracted to each other  by this or distance from each other even unconsciously. What about all that perfume and so on? It is natural.

However, this should not be the criterion. We should approach each other not on the level of smell, although this is also very important, and not on the level of other various tastes, but on the level of understanding our correct aim to the purpose of creation. If we were all aiming for the correct purpose of creation, it would be much easier for us to find a partner. After all, in principle, we would not be separated from each other. We would not split up. This purpose would unite us all.

Comment: For young people, it is way too exalted to talk about the purpose of creation.

Answer: And what happens in the end? It turns out very low. They will not invent anything new. They get something like love for an hour  and that is the end of it.

Question: What should they understand?

Answer: They need to understand why they are getting married, why they need to tie up their life with a certain person. In the end, you still will not be able to create married couples. They will meet, have children, and run away from each other.

Question: How can one find a lifelong partner?

Answer: Only the final purpose should hold us together.

Question: Why do I look for a partner? Why do I get married?

Answer: In order to reach the final goal together with my partner through correct connection with him or her. Yet, I also need friends for that.

The purpose of creation is to reveal the upper force that manages us. To understand and attain what we exist for, what happens to us, who controls us, and where it leads. That is what we need to reveal so that we open our eyes to where we are.

Question: Does this thirst have to be in him and in her, in the guy, in the girl, and in general in all people?

Answer: Yes. You must discover this need and together with your partner gradually move toward it.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 1/14/21

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