Question: If people feel good in their collective, then is it possible to enter there and say, “Friends, you have a lot of contradictions and differences?”

Answer: You don’t need to say anything “directly inside.” The people need to find the problem themselves and arrive at a diagnosis where contradictions and differences, lack of trust, and other shortcomings, exist among them.

In no way should you say anything negative to them. Rather, simply suggest they hold hands, sing a song, exchange opinions, and complete each other, not challenge each other, and then, through seemingly dealing with the question from the side, the people will ultimately connect among themselves. Specifically, from the point of connection, after you elevate them a bit, in this way, you cleanse them from all kinds of Klipot. They suddenly will begin to feel themselves to be defective, inferior. However, you don’t say this to them yourself.

When they independently reach particular conclusions, you express astonishment, “Are you really like this,” and, regarding what they say, “Look at what we clarified! Such relationships exist among us!” You answer, “This cannot be. You see, you said you were okay. Then, what happens?”

So, if you say something negative, then do so only with a very small hint and only after you previously explained everything that is positive, like a doctor says to someone who is ill, “Here is a remedy for a raging virus. We found this virus in you. Take a pill and be well.”

But it is still preferred that through receiving the remedy in a sweet wrapper, they will arrive at a diagnosis themselves and discover the bitterness of the illness through a sweet capsule—which is to say, to discover their shortcomings through love, through the good, new connection between them.
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From Kab TV’s “Through Time” 10/20/13

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Question: It is now absolutely clear to doctors that a human being is not only comprised of physiological systems of the body and mind, but also of the desire for a purpose. But we know that this is a person’s spiritual level. So he is compelled to build relationships between himself and the goal, his environment, and also to his body.

Recently, we are faced with the fact that people have been relating to their bodies negligently or even contemptuously, and consequently they are subject to disease. So how should one relate to the body?

Answer: As a result of thousands of years of development, a person has reached a state where he is not happy to be alive. Subconsciously we don’t want to live. Everything is in vain: the anguish, the suffering; life, what is it all? Do I need to feel that I am joyful, happy? But I don’t.

If I get some kind of satisfaction, it is attained through unjustified effort, and then it either passes very rapidly or at any moment it transforms into the opposite. So people truly don’t want to live. Therefore contempt for the body is only a small consequence of the current condition. A person secretly feels that he would be happier if he didn’t exist at all.

In the past there was nothing like this because we still had not evolved to this awareness. Today we have a conscious approach to life, the futility of our existence, the lack of fruitfulness, the degradation. We understand our nature, our nothingness. Nobody asked us if we wanted to be born, to be educated in this society, or in another society. We don’t understand what, where, or how.

There was a time when we had defined goals. We were still not that developed and so we went after whatever seemed permanent, building something, yearning for something. One yearned for capitalism, some for communism, and others yearned to explore space. We wanted to prove something, to struggle, and to attain some kind of self-affirmation. Today none of this exists; everything has simply disappeared and an “empty sink” remains where all the water has drained from. We no longer have anything to fulfill us.

Therefore we even look at our bodies with contempt. This explains the attraction to drugs, antidepressants, and suicide. Moreover, this is not only seen in developed countries, but everywhere, in Latin America, and even in Africa, in those places where people were sufficiently happy in the past despite their wretched existence. Today this no longer exists. There must be some kind of purpose for a person for one to engage in himself, his appearance, sports, etc.
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From Kab TV’s “Through Time” 10/20/13

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Question: What is the difference between “round” and “linear” discussion, implementation, or decision? What do interactions between linear efforts and circular integration mean in the integral method?

Answer: It means that all of us are found in linear interactions for the sake of connection in a circle. I invest effort that is directed towards the center of the circle in order to become rounded, to disappear, and to melt into it. With this I acquire an idea, a thought, and a general common desire.

There is nothing integral in me now. Integrality is created in a connection between us. Therefore my efforts are linear.

Question: We have people who are used to taking an initiative upon themselves and implementing actions individually.

Answer: Implementation cannot be individual! A team has been gathered that has accrued an integral connection, power, and warmth from the group. It goes and transmits this feeling of mutual connection to another place, wanting this drop of shared unity that they create through their desires and thoughts to gradually flow to others.

What is the idea of an individual person here? What can he do alone? He needs to be a carrier of our integral virus  and nothing more.

Imagine how ticks travel around with the help of dogs. Each one of us, in general, needs to be like a dog upon which “ticks” of “integral viruses” sit that are transferred from our group to another group.

Question: But there isn’t anything integral in me….

Answer: How could there not be? You are included in a group, you see! If there were nothing integral in you, then it would be impossible for you to go anywhere. You would fail! And what will become of us, what will happen with those you come to? Will there be a collective global failure?

Question: Suppose we gather together, that is all well and good for us. How can we go out to the 99% of the population and transmit these wonderful “ticks” to them?

Answer: It is necessary to agree and establish from the start how and what we are doing, to create a plan of action before going out to disseminate, to discuss it, approve it, and implement it.

For example, before an excursion of this type, you need to arrange a small practice workshop for us. For example, you tell us facts we already know; it doesn’t matter; you simply practice your first workshop on us as an apprentice, in training. After this, we give suggestions and prompts, laugh at you, correct you, and then you take a few friends with you and you go to disseminate.

Go out to disseminate with at least two people, but preferably three, and even better four; it depends on what society you are going to. You all bear the same responsibility, that is, each one of the friends can replace you at any moment. And so you don’t have anything to fear, and we too, in general, have nothing to fear, because three or four of our friends can fill any gap.
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From Kab TV’s “Through Time” 9/17/13

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Question: In the framework of integral education is it possible to create a course that teaches us to behave correctly in our bodies, with ourselves, so that on a basis of correct behavior the person can advance onward?

Answer: Only if he will begin to feel happiness through a mutual connection with others. But in the meantime, in a natural way, we can only be connected physically because we have not yet found another virtual level of communication outside of ourselves, even though science already talks about a possibility like this, especially physics and psychology.

Since we exist in a real manner within the body, we are connected with one another through its sensations and comprehend one another in this manner. If we feel that our body becomes a tool through which we reach inner fulfillment, then this will be comprehended by us as a positive tool for this will become a source of happiness, will give us fulfillment.

So then being alive is necessary, to  vitalize, to be healthy and fit. We reach this only through involvement with integral unification through changing a person’s view of himself.
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From Kab TV’s “Through Time” 10/20/13

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Question: What does the right contact between people mean?

Answer: The right contact is the appearance of a general shared desire in heart and mind. When something shared is created between you and me, not in you from me and not in me from you, rather between us, then a very interesting third component appears which is called “joy.” This feeling is on a level higher than us.
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Question: Do we need to tell people at the lectures on integral education that they are uncorrected elements of nature and that all the problems in life are brought about by them? Wouldn’t this depress people?

Answer: This will not happen in two cases: First, if people come to this conclusion themselves in the course of a workshop as a result of the proper pre-designed questions asked in the correct sequence, this will become their personal discovery. It will turn out that you are not proving something to them, but they themselves draw definite conclusions, give you your methodology themselves. They “give birth” to it every time.

Second, if you speak from the perspective of a doctor, telling the patient about his illness and making him understand that there is a cure, then, it will become a pleasant discovery for him because he will understand at once that by getting rid of the disease, he will rise to a completely different level of health.

You can tell people that they are uncorrected elements of nature only in these two instances.

In general, we never start with this. I believe that a person should not be told anything unpleasant—or even pleasant—because he must discover everything himself. Then, it will be his attainment, his feeling. After all, it is not someone else’s thought that whizzed past his ear and disappeared in the air, but his own that he has found within himself. He will own it and will not part with it.
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From Kab TV’s “Through Time” 10/20/13

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Question: If we tell people that egoism is our nature, we are confronted with strong opposition.

Answer: True. That is why the disclosure of the disease always should be preceded by its remedy. Let’s say that you are going to hit someone; hit, if it is necessary but first, explain why, what for, and what positive result will come out of it.

It’s the same thing as with spanking a child; he should know that you do this with love, for his benefit, clearly pursuing the definite objective of fighting his egoism and not because you are upset.

Question: So, do I tell the patient that he will have a difficult operation but it undoubtedly will lead him to a better state?

Answer: No, first, you need to describe the best state, show it, and make it felt. Then, the person will see his next state in front of him. His diagnosis will be revealed to him much more clearly and correctly. He will understand everything correctly. Otherwise, he will not want to accept it. It really will be awful for him. He will want to forget it, to get rid of it, to erase it from his memory as quickly as possible.

Question: We conducted a workshop with a group, half of which were physicians interested in making society healthy. When it comes to balance in terms of medicine, blood pressure is 120/80, a specific white blood cell count, pH factor, and another sixteen indicators.

Answer: These are the physical manifestations of balance. When physiological parameters of the balance of the internal systems are disturbed, a disease appears, and any disease is a lack of balance.

Applying the integral methodology, we come to balance at the next, higher level—at the psychological, physical, spiritual, and emotional levels—no matter what. Therefore, physicians should understand that the same principle applies to all the levels.

The same goes for psychologists and psychiatrists. We all desire to achieve balance in our lives, anywhere, in any state. Indeed, there is no positive without negative. It is possible to give a person such positive stress that his heart will not sustain immense joy. Therefore, everything is built on balance.
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From Kab TV’s “Through Time” 10/20/13

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Question: With regard to equality in wages at an enterprise engaged in the dissemination of the integral method, let’s take an instructor and a janitor as an example. Their work requires completely different efforts and is different with respect to the emotional stress involved with the work. A janitor takes a mop and cleans the floor, while the instructor has to study and read from dawn to sunset; he has to constantly take ongoing training courses, etc. What would be the correct approach?

Answer: I don’t understand why a janitor should receive less money than an instructor. Let’s say I wanted to be a research scientist because I felt a desire for this. After all, I was made this way by nature and I was realizing this call. At the same time, some girl came from some rural place and works as a janitor. She participates in our company and must attend our courses and must be together with us in the collective work of the one common whole, in one healthy team, as an independent unit. Therefore, I don’t see anything in her that would make her lower than me.

Moreover, nothing will work without her. If she becomes included in the team, then everything depends on her as well. If this system is integral and analog, then every part is like one whole. Therefore, we should not break this spiritual principle.
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From the program “Through Time” 9/17/13

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Question: At the congress in Stockholm, you said that the professionals closest to us are teachers and psychologists. Immediately, a teacher with 35 years of experience said, “Finally, my experience is in demand, and I’ll tell you how to teach your methodology of integral education.”

Also a psychologist said, “You do it the wrong way. You can’t do anything. You should be trained for three years, you need to complete psychology courses.” However, she did not finish our training, constantly falls back into her profession, and is unable to grasp the integral methodology. But when she heard your statement, she decided that it was her finest hour.

Answer: Of course not! I meant that it might be easier for a person who is accustomed to methodical work and knows the principles of organizing it to develop our methodology . But neither teachers nor psychologists can be above everyone else. Moreover, to develop the methodology, it is better not to involve teachers but curriculum developers instead because they know how to explain it.

How is a lesson plan in school usually created? First, they speak about one thing, then another, the corresponding representation is drawn, a specific example is given. Similarly, we have to describe in a talk, then a workshop, then questions and answers, etc. You need a specialist who is familiar with the correct presentation of the material for this, someone who lives this, not a teacher, but a curriculum developer.

I mentioned teachers and psychologists because they have an approach, the experience of interaction with an audience, but nothing more. They have to be fully integrated with us in everything else; leaving their previous form, they should be reborn; their inner message should be ours.

So I don’t think that teachers and psychologists are the ones who can immediately go out to people, and by no means should they tell us what to do. If the female psychologist says otherwise, then she has no place among us.
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From Kab TV’s “Through Time” 9/17/13

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Question: You use the word “round” all the time, for example, “round” desires. What does this mean?

Answer: We are connected, adhered, included in one another in such a way that your desires and thoughts become understood and close to me, and my desires become close and understood by you. We become closer, so much so, that each one is raised above himself; we are connected through a common opinion, shared knowledge, and mutual feeling.

This unity which is created between us becomes the main thing because it is specifically this which produces a third component, the unified image of the one person who is completely similar to nature and is found in absolute harmony with it. In this way, by connecting above ourselves, above our ego, each one of us becomes a harmonious component of nature.
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From Kab TV’s “Through Time” 9/17/13

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