Question: It often happens that the higher the result, the more it does not promise anything good during the stages of growth.

The sourest fruit becomes the most delicious, and you already thought of cutting down the tree. The genius was failing at school; they wanted to kick him out of school, and he became Einstein.

The beautiful swan was once an ugly duckling. We know this story. The question is why is this so? Why is it necessary to be an ugly duckling first?

Answer: It is because such is the path of development of opposites that nothing can develop in a straight path but only as it is written, “through its opposite.” That is, there is a direct phenomenon, but its opposite consequences occur before it.

We need to respect a person in any of his states because they all do not mean anything. How many such examples have we had in history when completely useless, unnecessary children grew up to be geniuses and vice-versa.

Question: Then the question is how to recognize them?

Answer: There is no way! You cannot recognize it in any way. We just need to give everyone the opportunity to develop.

Question: Where can a person get the patience from? He sees that nothing will grow out of it. Nothing will grow out of this weed. Where does one get patience?

Answer: How does he know that nothing will grow out of it?

Comment: But you say yourself that we cannot know.

My Response: This is why he has to stop himself. Because nothing is created in vain, and every object in our world has its purpose. It is not up to you to decide what it should be now, and what it should be in the future. Therefore, just stop yourself.

Question: What if we give such an opportunity? Let’s say we restrain ourselves and let everything develop.

Answer: Give everyone the opportunity to develop correctly. Let him develop in him all the qualities that the Creator embedded in him, and you will see.

Question: Thus, it turns out that I am changing—the one who wants to destroy all this. Is this my ascent above my nature?

Answer: Absolutely right.

Question: Is this the most important thing by and large?

Answer: Yes.

Question: Now the question is, is our world today like an ugly duckling? A lot of people also have this state. The Internet is full of these phrases: “May it burn down! Yes, I wish that this world would not exist! Yes, we all need to start over!” And so on. What is this ugly duckling developing into?

Answer: To the fact that we recognize evil, our evil, what we have brought the world to, and give it the opportunity to develop correctly with our new attitude to it.

Question: Is that why we see this world so corrupted?

Answer: Yes.

Question: So are you saying that I am the one who is corrupted?

Answer: Of course.

Question: Does everyone have to come to this?

Answer: I do not know about everyone. But basically such a thought and such an attitude should be dominant.

Comment: But I see that they do not come to this. Quite the opposite.

My Response: They will come to this.

Comment: You are an optimist here saying that we will come to this.

My Response: The fact that we will come to this is definite. But the question is through what kind of blows.

I think we need to understand that the world is ready for the best state. We need to think about why we do not let it be like that.

The fact that we see it so sour and bad today is the result of our attitude toward the world.
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Timur writes: I have listened carefully several times to your explanations of what the Torah is. I realize that the Torah is instruction for correction. I realize that the serpent is in me, and it is always egging me on. I even feel that I cannot stop and therefore I spoil the relationship with my wife and friends even though I do not want to do that. My first question is: How do I crush this serpent?

Question:  He understands that it is his ego, his pride, that is spoiling his life. Can this serpent be crushed?

Answer: In general, a person himself can try to do this all his life and fail. Although a lot of people are doing this and want to be better, but it does not work out directly this way.

It will work only in one way; if we create an external environment, that is, a human society, that will put pressure on everyone, impose on everyone in the right way, in a good way, how to behave with each other, then it will work.

But so far, it has not worked anywhere. So, of course, everything is fine, but for some reason it always turns out very badly.

Comment: You just said this: it will not work individually if I just want to crush it in myself. You think this is doomed to fail. But if we want to sort this out, then you say that such an option is possible here.

My Response: “We” means the group, a society. Let’s try.

Question: Will it, this serpent, our egoism, be crushed? What will happen to it?

Answer: Such a “tapeworm” lives inside us.

Question: Will it keep living?

Answer: There is nothing we can do to it.

The only thing we can do is just agree among ourselves that we will all oppose it and thereby strangle it in ourselves.

Question: But not to death, you are saying?

Answer: No, it is impossible to strangle it to death. This is no longer our work. We just have to want it to quiet down so much that it kind of ceases to exist. So that it does not speak but huddles in a corner somewhere and stays there.

Question: Timur has a second question: “Is there something good about the serpent? After all, I know that in our world snake venom is used as medicine.”

Answer: There is a lot of good in the serpent and, in principle, there is nothing bad about it. Nothing! It is only to the extent that a person cannot fight his serpent that he discovers that the serpent is evil. But he detects this only in order to work with it correctly.

In general, the serpent is a creation of the Creator. It was created in order to correct a person and lead him to absolute goodness.

A person cannot fight the serpent; this is clear. But he can ask the Creator for this.

Question: How did humanity figure out that it is possible to use snake venom for medicine? This is some kind of reverse thought. Poison on one hand, on the other hand, medicine.

Answer: Any poison is a medicine. There is nothing bad or evil in the world. Nothing! Moreover, the venom of the snake, which seems at the first glance designed to kill everything, is precisely a great medicine.

Question: Timor’s third question is: “Is it possible to live in peace with the serpent?”

Answer: If we manage to control it, the serpent that is in us, that evil (envy, jealousy, hostility, and pride), then, of course, we will be able to use the whole serpent for good. It will be with us in an embrace, as with Adam and Eve.

Question: His fourth question is very interesting: “Why do we see the serpent in the Bible only at the beginning, in the Garden of Eden, and then nothing is said about it? After all, it exists. You said that it is in us until the very end.”

Answer: It is an eternal creature, an eternal being, an eternal nature, that will be with us all the time until we correct it at the end through our serious, long–term work.

Comment: But really, when reading the Torah (the Bible), we see that the word “serpent” ends there.

My Response: Yes, it is at the beginning, at the very beginning of the sin, at the foundation.

Question: But where is it later? Are all these, roughly speaking, evil heroes its personification?

Answer: Everything evil that happens in people and between people, all of this is the consequence of the serpent, called by other names, but this is it.

Question: Let’s finish about the serpent globally. The serpent, what is it?

Answer: It is not the serpent we imagine. It is what lives inside us and is our egoism that wants to exist only by itself, in spite of others, hates everyone and everything, and wants nothing but to rule over everyone.

This serpent is in us. There is no other serpent in principle. Its future lies in the fact that we will define it as the only evil inclination of the entire nature, which we must necessarily exterminate from ourselves.

Question: Exterminate, after all?

Answer: Yes. To exterminate it from ourselves means that we must understand where it is, in what form, and how we can deal with it. That is, the serpent is a purely spiritual substance.

Question: When you say “exterminate,” does it mean to conquer, put in a cage, or what?

Answer: Do whatever you want. Tie it into a knot and do not let it stick its head out of you.

Question: Recently you said that it is necessary to project warmth and love. When you say that we should approach each other with kindness and warmth, does it mean that we are going to conquer this serpent?

Answer: Yes.

Question: Will it at the same time become stronger?

Answer: After all, we must understand that the fight against the serpent is a work for all times until complete correction.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 10/18/23

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I grew up my whole life among sages, and have not found anything good for the body besides silence (Masechet Avot, 1:17).

Question: Why does silence have such a height, I have not found anything good besides silence?

Answer: Because a person, in principle, should talk to himself. When he talks to himself, he begins to transition to the Creator.

Question: Prayers are written in words after all, and are said three times a day when necessary. There is a time for saying prayers. Why?

Answer: This is for those who do not know how to be silent. It is for those who need to say something, cry out, and so on.

Usually, if a person can express it all within himself, it is the best and strongest. It is a screaming silence.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 9/21/23

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Dear Michael Laitman,
Trouble has brought us together again. We are again confident that the people are united, we will defeat any enemies, we can, we are strong, and we defend our home. I agree with all this, but where is the Creator now, the one you keep talking about? Or is it implied that He is inside this unity of ours?
Ilya

My Response: We can say that we are close to misfortune. It is our enemies who have silenced us relative to each other.

Question: Do you mean that there is still a lot of work to be done?

Answer: Not only that still needs to be done, but we need to do the work! We were forced to forget about some internal quarrels. But we must understand that we must do serious work on a mistake. The mistake is mutual hatred, revealed in us by the Creator who specifically awakens it so that we ask Him to make peace and love between us.

Question: Do we still have to come to this?

Answer: Of course! And come in what way? We have to recognize and feel that there is mutual rejection and hatred between us. We have to rise above it.

This work is constant! It is not something that will pass in a couple of weeks, and that is it. This hatred will not go away. We have reached a level of connection between us, which is called mutual hatred. We have to suppress it from above with our love for each other. It is through hatred that we can reach love.

Question: You just said a very interesting thing. Is this a level of hatred? This level is already very high. Should love have the same level?

Answer: It should be even more, above the hatred.

This love is not ready, and it is not there so that you can take and replace one with another. It must be born out of ourselves! Precisely, in such serious labor pains. I think it is not easy, this work is for many years to come.

Question: Now everyone is thinking and talking, of course, about victory. Tell me, please, what do you call victory?

Answer: By victory, I mean the victory of a person over oneself. When one realizes that to win, he must defeat himself because besides him there is only the Creator. Here, nothing can be otherwise.

The only thing we need is to truly understand that we have always behaved incorrectly. Now is the time to understand, realize, and admit who is to blame.

It is us. By hating each other, we have led ourselves and the country to the fact that it cannot exist in this way. We must give a clear answer to this and proceed with what we must do to make this country Jewish and viable.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 10/12/23

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And so, Lord our God, instill fear of You upon all that You have made, and dread of You upon all that You have created; and [then] all works will be in awe of You, all the created beings will prostrate themselves before You, and they all will form a single band to carry out Your will with a perfect heart. For we know, Lord our God, that rulership is Yours, strength is in Your [left] hand, might is in Your right hand, and Your Name is awesome over all that You have created (Machzor for Yom Kippur).

Question: Why does this day of atonement prayer state that it is necessary to fear the Creator?

Answer: The fact is that it is very difficult for us to understand the imbalance between an absolutely good Creator and an absolutely evil person that was created by the same good Creator. Why? It is precisely to make a person realize the reason he was created like that and to start feeling a desire to be like the Creator.

Question: What is the reason?

Answer: It is just so that we start wanting to be like the Creator.

Question: Does it mean that I am very far from Him and want to be like Him?

Answer: Yes.

Question: Is it deliberate that I am far from Him?

Answer: Initially.

Question: What does it mean that they will have fear of the Creator?

Answer: This is already an appeal to the Creator. It is when people will feel that all this comes from Him, so that they are afraid and ask Him for correction.

Question: What does it mean when it is said, and they will prostrate themselves before You?

Answer: They will wish to subjugate to the good inclination of the Creator.

Question: What does, and they all will form a single band to carry out Your will with a perfect heart,  mean?

Answer: This is when everyone will help others so that everyone together will be in goodness and in love for the Creator and for everyone.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 9/18/23

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Question: Is it possible to live without suffering? Sometimes you say, “It is possible without suffering,” and other times you say, “It is impossible.” Yes, or no?”

My Response: It is possible to live without suffering if we will imagine how we grow thanks to suffering. And then, we will perceive suffering as an incentive to growth.

Question: So, when sufferings come, what should be my response to it?

Answer: That I investigate, analyze, and rise above them.

Question: Analyzing them means: Where did they come from, why? Is that analysis?

Answer: And that is too, of course.

Question: Does that mean that I have to respond to every suffering with analysis?

Answer: Certainly yes. Otherwise, it will pass without a trace. We’ve had this before. We have already been to Gaza and have already expelled terrorists from there. So what? It just gets worse from time to time.

Comment: It is not easy all the time. If I feel pain, I feel it.

My Response: Everything I am going to say today is not easy. Because this is the situation!

Question: In other words, if I feel pain, I still have to, even go through the pain, come to an analysis, as you say, where did it come from and why did it come to me?

Answer: Yes.

Question: And then the pain goes away? Or is it changing? What happens if I actually analyze?

Answer: I thank this pain for what it does to me. Thanks to it I feel where I am ill, in what ways, and how can I get rid of my illness and come to a healthy life. And it is indeed the path to a healthy life.

Question: So, it turns out that it is possible without suffering, right?

Answer: Of course. It is possible without suffering if we correctly depict what suffering means. And sufferings are in mutual hatred. This is what real sufferings are! And I have to rise above them to mutual love, and then everything will work out.

Question: Meaning, that I have to suffer from the hatred for another that lives in me? Is that what you call real suffering?

Answer: Yes. Exactly to that extent I have to suffer.

Question: And what about that I am pushed with a stick to happiness and so on?

Answer: No, that is not it. This is a result of my behavior, a consequence of my hatred.

Question: So, you are going back to the root again? Everything is in the root.

Answer: And what can you do?

Question: Let’s imagine if I turn this hatred around, will be able to, then the stick will no longer push me?

Answer: Obviously who would it push? It only pushes us to bring us to a state of love.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 10/12/23

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A student asked the master, “You said that if I understand who I am, I will become wise. But how do I do that?” The teacher replied, “To begin with, take away from people the right to decide who you are. One will say you are bad, and you will believe him and get upset. Another will say you are good, and you will rejoice. Whether they praise or criticize you, believe in you, or betray you, as long as they have the right to decide who you are, you won’t find yourself. Take away this right from them, and from me, too.” (Parable)

Question: Is it possible to be free from the opinions of others?

Answer: When I see how others judge the world, me, my teacher, and my science, it does, of course, sadden me to a great extent. But in principle, it does not last long or affect me significantly. I find a perfectly sensible answer to it.

Question: Doesn’t it motivate you to make changes?

Answer: No, not at all! That is long gone!

Comment: This means they can no longer change you.

My Response: No one can.

Question: Explain to someone who worries that any opinions can change him. How can he manage to stand firm, avoid all traps, criticism, and so on, and keep moving forward?

Answer: It may take years to achieve this. But I took this upon myself many years ago, and it no longer bothers me.

Question: So you latched onto a goal, a teacher, and that’s it? You couldn’t be swayed by any means?

Answer: By no means.

Question: So in reality, does a person need to hold onto something firmly?

Answer: Yes, to hold on tightly.

Question: Even when doubts arise?

Answer: Doubts come intentionally to make a person hold on.

Question: Is it possible to find oneself without the influence of others? After all, you had a teacher; there was an influence.

Answer: Without the influence of the teacher on me, I am nobody!

Question: But you were looking for someone who would influence you. How can you determine if it’s the right kind of influence you seek?

Answer: During the first few years with him, I still traveled, visited other places, and tried to find out what suited me.

Comment: You are talking about yourself right now.

My Response: Yes, about me and my teacher! And I asked him, “How do I know that you are real? In the thousands of years that Kabbalah has existed, how many like you have there been? Where are they, where are their students, and what happened to them?” He said, “I don’t know.”

Question: Is this called “teacher’s help” to answer like this: “I don’t know”?

Answer: Yes. You have to check for yourself.

Question: So, he doesn’t try to prove anything; he says, “Check it yourself”?

Answer: Exactly.

Question: So was his influence on you like this: “See if it suits you or not”?

Answer: We sit down, we read, we talk, but we don’t delve into anything personal.

Question: Does personal mean whether it’s your place or not?

Answer: Yes.

Question: So do these clarifications take quite a while for a person?

Answer: Gradually, you grab hold more and more, then let go, fall, and then rise and grab hold again. And like this you move forward.”
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 8/31/23

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Question: There I heard that a very wealthy Kazakh businessman, investor, and  public figure Margulan Seisembayev once said, “The paradox of this life is that everything we really need is either free or cheap. We cannot do without air—the air is free. We cannot do without water—water is free. Food is cheap, we cannot do without it. Sleep costs us nothing. But things we do not need: gold, diamonds, Rolls-Royce are hellishly expensive. That is, the system of values of humanity—and we seem to be grabbing at them all the time—is completely distorted, and this should not continue. Because of these distorted values, we have developed wrong industries.”

Does this make sense?

Answer: It seems so.

Question: In principle, this man is a billionaire, he stands firmly on the ground, and he does not mention spirituality. He does not mention that we cannot do without it. Do you think we can do without spiritual search or not?

Answer: Then our whole life in general has no meaning.

Question: And what is the cost of spirituality?

Answer: Only human efforts.

Question: So, you would add spirituality to this list: air, water, and so on? At the same level? That a person cannot live without it?

Answer: Of course. Then life has no meaning.

Question: At what point does a person suddenly have this feeling, such a click occurs in him that he says: “I did not add the most important element here: the search for the meaning of life”?

Answer: It is when a person asks: “Who am I? Why me? What am I doing here anyway?”

Question: How do I get to this question?

Answer: It does not depend on the person. This awakens in a person from the inside.

Question: So, this question comes to a person from above?

Answer: Yes.

Question: But, in principle, should there be some effort from my side?

Answer: No. If you do not have this question, then you cannot make any effort. But when this question arises, then you are given the condition that you must find the answer to it.

Question: So, this is an expensive thing after all?

Answer: To know about life?

Question: Yes. Where do we fit it in: in the fact that air and water cost nothing, or in Rolls-Royce, gold, diamonds?

Answer: I would put it where all these kinds of rich toys are because a person must pay for it. By canceling yourself, your “I,” searching, and so on.

Question: Are you also saying that one way or another, this point called “the search for the meaning of life” will develop in every person? One way or another, will we come to this? Will everyone come?

Answer: Yes.

Question: So, sooner or later, we will pay with our lives for this whole thing?

Answer: Sure. What is life? By the way, it is the cheapest there is. You can see that. And what is it worth?

Comment: It is said somewhere that the most precious thing a person has is life.

My Response: That is what the townsfolk think. I believe that life is the cheapest thing a person has. And he practically gives it away for nothing. Took it for free, gave it away for free.

Comment: But it is still my life!

My Response: So what? It is given to you only so that you suffer and try to answer some questions, which you eventually do not answer and go back to where you came from.

Question: So I played with Rolls-Royces, gold, diamonds, and left. And came again to play again and leave?

Answer: Yes.

Question: What is the result of all this?

Answer: If a person correctly manages his spiritual potential, he can achieve the revelation of the meaning of life.

Question: Is there a spiritual potential in every person?

Answer: In everyone. And the purpose of life is to reveal this spiritual potential and realize it.

Question: That is, a person would not have been born if there were no spiritual potential in him? Can I say that?

Answer: Yes. It is not only regarding man; it is any grain of sand, inanimate, vegetative, animate nature, and man, of course.

All we can say about anything that exists is that they are the realization of their inner spiritual potential.

Question: What is spiritual potential? What do you mean by that?

Answer: It is the manifestation of the highest management in a person, the highest desire, the highest intention.

Question: What is it like?

Answer: What it is like should be revealed by everyone in whom it arises.

Question: So, there was a higher intention for all of us and not just us but for everything to be born?

Answer: Yes.

Question: And it had its meaning, its purpose?

Answer: And we must reveal this intention.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 7/20/23

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Question: Many Kabbalistic sources say that we should become a family. On such tragic days, it suddenly feels very true. It is clear that we are not talking about family ties.

What kind of family are we talking about?

Answer: This is about making everyone feel the person standing next to them so that we all feel that we are one family, that we are together. Only in this case will we not only defeat our external enemy, but also, most importantly, our internal enemy, our egoism. And then we are not afraid of anything!

Family is when we are all as one.

Question: Explain this, please, “as one whole.” We are different families, we are different people, different characters, different views, even left and right. How is a family built out of all this? Is it possible to build a family or want to build one?

Answer: It is possible. To do this, we only need to understand that victory can only be in this case and that in general we should leave all the contradictions between us and feel like one common whole. Only in this case can we defeat our internal enemy, and the external one is no longer a problem.

Question: Once, when we called ourselves the nation at Mount Sinai, there was such a proposal: “Either you will unite now, or this will be your burial place.” Do you think it is very similar to what is happening today?

Answer: Of course!

Question: Meaning, we can say that now we have been challenged, the Creator has set such a condition. And it’s as sharp as you say. Are we connecting above everything?

Answer: Above everything, yes. And of course, we should understand it that way.

Comment: But it’s no secret that we are egoistic.

My Response: We are the most egoistic and the worst, it is what leads us to unite and we see there is no other way.

Question: The force of this blow, which we have now felt, can it lead to such a decision, to prayer?

Answer: Yes. It can.

Question: The goal is clear. What do we all need to do for this?

Answer: Everyone should forget about themselves and think about others. I have to think about all the people who are obliged to survive this state and win.

Comment: You know, when these stories are being told, which are now happening at our frontline, there are a lot of cases when people forget about themselves. They tell about a soldier who falls on a mine and saves all his friends with it. About a woman, her name is Tali, who, while terrorists are shooting around, transports 13 wounded from the frontline, goes back and forth. An elderly woman, she has six children.

My Response: This is solidarity. And only from this can victory be born.

Question: Does each of us have to exist like this?

Answer: Exactly so. Everyone, as much as he can, must give himself for victory. Victory is when we unite above our egoism and act together.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr Michael Laitman” 10/16/23

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Question: Thousands of people disappear in Japan every year. They leave their families and their jobs; they leave it all behind of their own freewill. They change their names and start new lives in a new place. This phenomenon is called johatsu. It is a way of escaping problems in one’s personal life and societal pressures. Someone gets tired of their work, of having many problems, and runs away. In Japan, there are agencies that help a person disappear without a trace; they are called night travel services. Such is life.

What do you think of such an escape?

Answer: The Japanese overall are a mystery to me. On one hand, they have kamikazes who can go to death with their eyes open and know in advance when it will happen to them, and on the other hand, they are running away from some small difficulty in ordinary life. They just suddenly leave and change everything.

Question: In general, how do you feel about such an escape from yourself?

Answer: I don’t feel like I can.

Question: In your case, yes. But is it even possible to escape from problems? To change everything in an instant, just like that?

Answer: I do not know how far I can run from myself. And if not from myself, then it does not matter.

Question: So you even welcome escape from yourself?

Answer: No, I don’t welcome it. I’m saying if you could run away from yourself, take a pill or something else and the whole past would break away from you and let you start over as it were, that would be good.

Question: But you would still have the same character and the same habits because the person does not change. That is, he seems to invite the same problems; another wife may be even worse, and so could other problems be. What then?

Answer: It is obvious that you cannot run away from yourself.

Question: Let’s say a person sees how terrible he is. Not even with these external problems, just to see himself, he is shown that he is, as you say, a complete egoist. How can he escape this?

Answer: There is no way.

Question: What should one do?

Answer: You cannot run away from yourself in any way nor can you run away from your egoism. You can start to work on it, slowly reform it, change it, and turn it inside out, but you cannot run from it.

Question: Why do you always say we need to get closer to others and build good relations when we are the opposite, we are egoists? How can we escape?

Answer: There is no way.

Question: So why do you suggest building good relations and connecting with others?

Answer: I really do advise that you rise above yourself to the next degree.

Question: How so if you say it’s impossible?

Answer: According to the law of negation, that is, to turn inside out.

Question: How can I do this? Can I do it myself?

Answer: In the right environment you can.

Question: So I have to find a society of people who want to turn themselves inside out? Then what? I see them trying to turn inside out. What are my actions?

Answer: I want to be like them, to join them and also to try to turn myself inside out.

Question: Is it possible to turn oneself inside out?

Answer: Yes.

Question: So what is there, on the other side?

Answer: What is good will be bad and what is bad will be good.

Question: What is good will be bad, I get it. But will the bad become good? The bad thing for me was, as we say, to connect with others, to make good relations. Will it become good? Is this just what man needs by and large?

Answer: Yes. He will be in another world.

Question: Is this truly a transition to another world?

Answer: Of course.

Question: How simply you explain this! Just turn yourself inside out, form good connections, and suddenly you’re in another world?

Answer: Yes.

Question: Is this what is required of us from above? Is this why they beat us all the time in this world, so we turn inside out?

Answer: In principle, yes.

Comment: That is, running from yourself, changing your name, and so on—by and large, that’s all…

Answer: It doesn’t mean anything. He does not change his nature. He doesn’t change himself.

Question: This is the most important question! That is, he keeps living on the same plane?

Answer: He does.

Question: Can we not change anything on this plane?

Answer: No, there can only be more disappointment.

Question: So your main advice is to find like-minded people who turn themselves inside out, and ask together with them?

Answer: Yes.

Question: As a result, what turns us inside out, does it come from above?

Answer: The upper force.

Question: So all our requests, one way or another, are always to Him?

Answer: Even if you don’t ask. If you try a little, if anyone can change you, it is only Him.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 8/10/23

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