Question: The Israeli Prime Minister and the Defense Minister met with foreign diplomats in Israel. They very logically, accurately, and visibly proved that Palestinian rocket launchers are stored in residential areas, in kindergartens, inside houses and hospitals, and that under residential areas of Gaza there is a huge underground city where militants are hiding behind residents and that our airstrikes are precisely targeted.
If there are threats to civilians, they are immediately notified to leave the area and are given time to evacuate. Evidence was presented that one quarter of the Palestinian rockets fell on their own territory, but that they do not care. They bombed Lod and hit the city of Tyre in the north of the country, which are populated by Arabs.
It was clearly proven that there is no army as humane as ours.
Do you think that we will always have to justify ourselves to the world—how good we are?
Answer: I do not think we need to do it because we will not be able to justify ourselves and because we are not so good. In fact, we are still the ones to blame. We will always be guilty, and we will always be the ones held liable.
As long as egoism exists in the world that causes rejection, hatred, and separation from each other, we will be guilty because we are the source of it.
And there is no getting away from it. Thus, everyone will be increasingly fixated on us, will accuse us, and will act around us and against us. We used to believe that as we develop, people would get smarter year after year and understand that it is not us.
But nothing could be further from the truth! Look at the Holocaust! We thought that when the truth of the Holocaust was out in the open people would see what it was and would change their attitude toward this long-suffering nation.
But no! We see what humanity is saying: “You have suffered? Suffer a thousand times more! Because we are all suffering because of you.” Humanity has this feeling that they are suffering because of us, that we are the source of suffering.
Question: Then I have this question: should we respond when we are attacked, and how should we respond?
Answer: We must defend ourselves in order to exist. It says in the Torah: “He who comes to kill you, kill him first.” But you must do so with the awareness that you must correct this state of being attacked. You must investigate the reason why others hate you and eradicate this hatred.
Question: So in any case, the first thing is to fight back, right?
Answer: Otherwise, who will justify, correct the world, and so on? Yes.
But Jews cannot really be annihilated. After all, they are the ones who have to bring the world to correction. This is our problem.
Question: What has to happen for everyone to feel that this is our land, that we are defending our land?
Answer: The nations of the world will not only feel this, but they will lead us to this country, they will open all the borders for us and say: “Come in and live here! Reign in glory, we will glorify you.”
Question: When will this happen?
Answer: When we all come together and when out of our correct, kind connection, we influence the whole of nature so that all of nature comes to unity, to a good relationship with each other so that all nations will suddenly look at each other with love. It can be a startling change if only the Jewish people would act this way among themselves.
Comment: Didn’t your teacher Rabash worry about the soldiers as if they were his own children? I remember you said that even while praying, he would listen to the news. He was asked, “How can you listen to the news during a prayer?” He said: “My children are there.”
Baal HaSulam recognized this country and even met with the head of state Ben-Gurion. He wanted this country to exist. You came here and served and worked in the army. And in general, everyone knows that you are not a left-leaning person.
My Response: I am neither left nor right. I do not stick to the left or the right wing’s ideology.
Question: You have a Kabbalistic view that this country should become just that, and that is what it was created for. And for this purpose Jews were gathered here?
Answer: Yes, to turn it into the spiritual center of the world.
Question: And then, at that moment, we will be able to say that this land is ours, right?
Answer: Only then.
Question: How do you feel about the fact that they make fake news from your videos, from what you say? They cut the first part out, a little here, a little there, and the part that remains makes it look like you are against Israel, that you support BDS and the extreme left. That is, they cut out what you say about what Israel should become, about love of others and how to implement it. And then they begin to flag it.
How do you feel about this?
Answer: I am not even angry at them; it is their livelihood. They live off this, get paid for it. Hamas collects money, passes it to such scribblers, and they work.
Question: And immediately people look at you in a certain way and say: “Wow, look at what he said! He says this is an apartheid country!” And so on. But it was a cunning editing job. How do you feel about this?
Answer: Positively. Because truth cannot be spread in this world. But lies spread very quickly! So, thanks to a lie, the truth will gradually come out through this lie. “Truth will grow from the earth.” So, I am happy.
Question: Really? It doesn’t bother you?
Answer: On the contrary, I am glad that I am being turned upside down, and in general, cut into pieces. Why not?
A person in our world has reached such a state of egoistic development that he cannot accept the truth. Here, try taking a truth pill, your body will reject it.
But if you take one gram of truth with 20 grams of lies and swallow those 20 grams of lies, you will be satisfied with these 20 grams of lies! And one gram of truth will be absorbed through it.
And that is what these people do. So I am grateful to them for taking my words this way and cutting them up.
Question: So you believe that in the lies they spread, there is still this gram of truth that penetrates it?
Answer: Yes. Although it is completely invisible. Quite the opposite.
Question: Then I have another question. What would you say now in this difficult time to the citizens of our country?
Answer: I have nothing to say. I have absolutely nothing to say except one thing. You nevertheless have to take an interest in who we are, what we are, and why we exist, for whose sake.
Question: The people of Israel?
Answer: Not just Israel. Today, it already is the entire world.
If you start to take an interest in this, I talk about it and write about it in all my books. You will find that we have a grand and wonderful mission, which from day to day becomes more and more singular in the world.
Everything else is becoming irrelevant, everything else becomes null and void. And only we remain with our idea that we must implement. And everything that relates to implementing this idea—love your neighbor as yourself, the connection of everyone—all of this remains and becomes more and more clearly manifested in our world as a necessity.
Question: Do you consider yourself to be a Zionist? And if yes, how do you define this concept?
Answer: Well, I cannot use these definitions because they are used in a completely different way than how I see them.
The aspiration to Zion, of course, was everyone’s aspiration. I remember my grandfather and his trepidation when he spoke about it. This was in the 1950s. Of course, it was very sacred to him.
Question: And he passed that on to you, right?
Answer: I remember that, yes. When I first went up to Jerusalem, I was very, very anxious—I was doing something that my grandfather never could.
Comment: That is, he conveyed this feeling and aspiration through you.
My response: Yes. I felt connected to my ancestors. But then it went away. Then I developed a very different connection with the land of Israel, with Zion, only for the sake of a higher idea.
Real Zionism is connection with the upper force that passes through the spiritual land of Israel! Earth, “Eretz” comes from the word “Ratzon,” a desire, aimed at love and bestowal.
Question: And in this sense you are a Zionist?
Question: And so were Baal HaSulam and your teacher Rabash, right?
Answer: All the Kabbalists.
Question: What is the land of Israel to you, to you personally?
Answer: It is a place that no one really wants, in reality. It was not needed. That is why it was abandoned for centuries. When the Jews came, it became needed by all.
This is a place that I hope will be completely forgotten and everyone will look only up toward heaven. That is where one should look for the desire for love and bestowal, for connection! That is the land of Israel. Up there.
Question: Is it not the physical land of Israel?
Answer: There is nothing physical. Not in these rocks, not in this sand, not in anything here! Everything is only inside, inside the people who appreciate and strive for this ideal of love, connection, and ascent to the Creator, to the quality of love and bestowal.
From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 5/20/21