Remark: As I understand it, my independence is in the voluntary acknowledgment of my complete dependence on society. However, this is not possible because I do not want to depend on anyone.

Answer: The fact that you are completely dependent on the vast, universal, eternal desire created by the Creator makes you eternal, perfect, and independent. You cannot get rid of the fact that you are a created being. Therefore, acknowledging you are a created being gives you the opportunity to reach the level of the Creator, to achieve adhesion and equivalence with Him.

Question: Still, how can an ordinary person become independent of others?

Answer: Start loving them. Then you will see that your love for them makes you higher than and independent of them, although you think about them and wish them well. This is the only way.

You cannot get out of the integral system. The only thing you can do is to ascend inside it. And to ascend means to take care of it.
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From KabTV’s “Fundamentals of Kabbalah,” 4/19/20

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New Life 1237 – From New Thinking To New Relations
Dr. Michael Laitman in conversation with Oren Levi

We need to understand what nature demands from us and that all of the blows we encounter result from imbalance in relations between people. Our egos are between us and through concessions we can ascend above the human ego and build a balanced connection between us on a higher level. We can get rid of the hatred and conflicts between us by giving up control. We need to hold on to one thought: to act for everyone’s sake. This can only be done when there is mutual support. We need to act kindly toward everyone and make sure everyone feels good, including our partners. If we know how to connect to the internal mechanism of nature, we will balance humanity and build heaven on earth.
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From KabTV’s “New Life 1237 – From New Thinking To New Relations,” 5/12/20

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Question: Is it possible that people will remove the borders between countries and nations?

Answer: Of course. These borders give nothing. When necessary, millions of people move from one country to another, fly and drive. Time passes and borders change their transparency. They do not matter much today. The world is approaching the state when it will have one language, one thought, and one movement.

If there were no egoistic rulers in the countries, the world would have become more integrated a long time ago. Only the principle of “divide and conquer” helps to maintain borders and create various laws and barriers between countries.
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From KabTV’s “Fundamentals of Kabbalah,” 4/19/20

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New Life 1236 – The Fear Of Returning To The Old Routine
Dr. Michael Laitman in conversation with Oren Levi

The long disconnection from our old routines has led to changes in our attitudes to life. We are not the same people we used to be. We are living in a new era. Until now, we fought with each other like kids, but it’s time to grow up. We need to limit humanity’s engagement in unnecessary matters and warm up the atmosphere between us. The workplace needs to be turned into a place of challenge and adventure and pay must be disconnected from work. A new, positive routine will require that everyone has their basic needs met and people will work in areas that humanity really needs. In such a society, people will feel a sense of balance and will be free from destructive competition. We need to develop the right ecological conduct, which includes a humane attitude toward the air between us and what we fill it with. If we each know that we leave our homes in order to learn how to live a balanced life, we will have nothing to fear. If we don’t want to learn how to live a balanced life, the blows will continue and force us. Evolution doesn’t stop.
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From KabTV’s “New Life 1236 – The Fear Of Returning To The Old Routine,” 5/12/20

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Question: You often say that one needs to learn from nature. How can an ordinary person look at what is happening in nature and learn anything? What can be learned from nature?

Answer: I believe that, having studied our earthly nature somewhat and seen that it is all a single, closed system, we only need to find out how we can be an integral part of this unified system, how we can fit into it so that nature is comfortable with us.

Question: Modern people are skeptical about the phrase “learn from nature.” People often perceive nature as an inexhaustible source of minerals, as a place of recreation, a research laboratory.

What is nature from your point of view? What is the essence of the unity of nature?

Answer: Nature is a single integral organism consisting of still, vegetative, animate, and human levels. These levels are very clearly and firmly connected to each other and feel dependent on each other.

But the human level has increased egoism, does not want to take into account the surrounding world, and tries to adapt nature for itself, rather than adapting itself to nature. In this lies man’s greatest mistake because, although he generally develops selfishly, all his development eventually leads him to great problems.

Question: Does this mean that there is harmony on all levels of nature, except for the human?

Answer: Man must come to harmony.
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From KabTV’s “The Post-Coronavirus Era,” 4/16/20

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Question: When do you think governments will begin to understand what you are talking about?

Answer: Never. They cannot and are not able to understand anything. And you, if you were in their place, would behave the same way.

But I’m an optimist. They will have such an opportunity only if the population puts pressure on them all together. Then their desires and thoughts will change. There is no other way.

Question: Is the situation with the coronavirus given to us for liberation or revolution?

Answer: No revolutions! Methods of force cannot solve any issues. The virus is designed to revolutionize us internally so that we want to be connected to each other.

All the viruses that we are getting now and will continue to receive in the future prepare us for an internal connection between us in desires and intentions. When we become closer to each other in understanding and empathy, then we will begin to influence all the people in the world, including our governments.

Although it seems to us that it is impossible to influence them in any way, we can do it. It is when we will be united that our thoughts and feelings will affect everything, and we will thus correct everything that exists. And governments won’t be able to do anything. They will perceive our feelings and thoughts, our heart and mind, and we will be commanding it.
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From KabTV’s “Fundamentals of Kabbalah,” 4/19/20

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Question: When predators, like wolves for example, show more selfishness, the number of rabbits in the forest becomes fewer, and then the wolves themselves die of hunger. But then nature compensates all this again, balances it.

Is it possible to say that in human society a balance can also be established between altruism and egoism, receiving and bestowing, for example, using the coronavirus?

Answer: This happens in a much more complicated way than in the animal world because there are many more equilibrium factors here, but we do not see it as such.

We have the possibility of freewill, not like with animals. We can say that they relate to one system and so mutually influence and balance each other. Above them is a general rule, a general formula.

But this does not exist in people. People cannot balance themselves in this way because the property of egoism is receiving, enriching at the expense of another, power over another, and envy. This is what animals do not have. Egoism prevails in man and leads him to absolute destruction.

Question: But still we are part of nature?

Answer: Yes, we are part of it, and we must bring ourselves to its complement as soon as possible and fit correctly into the entire integral picture of all of nature.
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From KabTV’s “The Post-Coronavirus Era” 4/16/20

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Question: We find ourselves today in a reality where the universal interconnection, which we feel very strongly today, and our egoistic rejection naturally blend together.

The only way out of this conflict is to change the system of relationships between people and the system of values in society, or, to wait until nature corrects us with its blows, as the coronavirus in this case, or we ourselves must find some solution.

We are angry with nature and ask: “What happened? Why do we need such punishment?”

Do you think nature has a mind? Are we being punished for something or are these just evolutionary processes?

Answer: Man is a single entity with nature. We are in a completely closed system, and therefore, we cannot separate ourselves from nature or nature from ourselves. Therefore, if something happens, it happens in all nature, in the global integrated system.

Therefore, there should be no separate inquiries regarding man and regarding nature. We are part of it. The fact that, in spite of this, we still have the opportunity to somewhat control ourselves, evaluate, differ from nature, to study our dependence on it or its dependence on us, these are just our possibilities.

But they must be very clearly divided: first into what we can study and understand, and second, what we can change in it and in ourselves. Indeed, basically, our whole problem with nature is that we violate its harmony, our natural connection with it.

When humans were still at the animate level, and we all developed from this state, there were no problems. Man acted on the basis of his understanding, awareness, and sensation, like any elementary part of nature.

And then, when the mind developed in him, when he began to acquire selfish properties about six thousand years ago, he began to separate from nature, to move away from it, to oppose it. Relations different from natural ones began to develop between people: selfish, opposing nature. And at this point, the problem arose: the confrontation between nature and man, nature and human society.

Question: Where can one see in nature at least some hints of feelings or reason?

Answer: We can not see anything in nature because we pass everything through ourselves. And it turns out that in nature, in general, there is nothing, and everything goes only through us.

Question: Does nature have a purpose?

Answer: The purpose of nature is to bring all of us to integral equilibrium.
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From KabTV’s “The Post-Coronavirus Era,” 4/16/20

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Question: In the era of the coronavirus, there are people who are not afraid of anything. I saw videos of Italian mayors going out into the city and scolding people to return home. And they just walked around. Even in Italy! But there are people who, naturally, are law-abiding, sit at home and listen to everyone.

What should a person really be afraid of: that he will infect himself or infect others?

Answer: I am very glad that such a question is being raised. I have to think about others. And despite the fact that I don’t believe doctors and I don’t believe that I will become infected and could be a carrier of this infection, I still have to do what the doctors say so that people see that I care about them. Not about yourself, but about them.

Question: You mean a person should wear a mask to show that he does not want to infect others? Does this apply to mutual guarantee?

Answer: Of course! Primarily. How can I do things that can threaten the life of another? Life! Today it is a matter of life!

The virus is a program for taking care of each other. You do not want to take care of each other in your ordinary, egoistic desire? You do not want to think that you are one single, integrated system, a terrestrial civilization? Then the virus will teach you.

It completes what we could not complete by ourselves consciously and willingly. It forces us to do this.

Question: Will it be able to do something with us or not?

Answer: Nature can do anything with us. And in the nearest future!

Question: Is it possible to invert a person? I was thinking only about myself all the time. I was living in this way, this is our life.

Answer: Suffering will do it all.

Comment: It is a big problem to advance all the time only through suffering.

My Response: Not only through suffering! After all, we do not want to do it willingly! We do not want to do it within reason! It is impossible to do anything with us. Therefore, we call upon ourselves such actions of nature, such blows.

Question: Does it mean that the virus is something very intelligent?

Answer: The whole of nature is intelligent. It is run according to a specific program. If you do not fulfill this program, then other programs are turned on, and then the next ones, and so on. There are many of these so-called viruses in nature.

We call it a “virus,” but it is a program that is included in the general egoistic program and it slowly begins to turn. It is not breaking it yet! It just turns us a little.

Now this virus is revealed in animals, then it will be in birds, then, somewhere in the air, we do not know where, in all sorts of midges, mosquitoes. You cannot imagine what could happen! We will find ourselves in a hostile world where everything is against us because we are opposite to it, because we hate this world though our behavior! Look at what we did to it!

Thus, it will be breaking us. And we will have to treat this world differently. First, we will have to isolate ourselves from any egoistic, malicious, excessive use. We will not need millions of stores and all the other things that we piled up in our world during a single century. And we will slowly, slowly deflate.

Question: When will the virus understand that it has done its work?

Answer: This happens automatically in nature. When we start to spend less, pollute less, let nature start to clean itself up, when the oceans start to digest our plastic that fills them. We will see this on the land, how it becomes more fertile, birds will sing in the air. Everything will be beautiful and good. Nature will sing from its harmony, which we do not violate! However, this takes time.

We are not doing this yet. This is why we need to restrict ourselves, we need to obey these laws that nature now expresses. I sit in an isolated room and do not go anywhere. What else am I supposed to do? This is a law of nature.

When we all get into relative balance with it, it may begin to affect us in even more sophisticated ways so that we will become even more suitable for it, until we reach a state where our physical actions begin to affect our moral principles, our interactions with each other.

We did not want to go from the inside out, that is, by our awareness, by our feelings. We did not want to change our relationships and our attitude to nature in this way, but now nature will force us to do this in the opposite way; it will push us from the outside in until we change.

Question: Is the fact that I begin to think about how not to infect another a clear step toward nature?

Answer: This is involuntary. This is not yet at the level of consciousness, at the level of consent, of voluntary acceptance, and at the level of desirable action. But this is a start. Thank God, nature has started working on us.

Question: At what point will it if not leave us alone, at least tell us, “Now you can relax a little”?

Answer: When we come to a dynamic balance with it.

Comment: This is a very distant goal.

My Response: We do not want it to leave us alone. God forbid!

The thing is the attitude of a person, about the fact that he does everything not in order to abuse, to satiate himself with all sorts of peculiarities, but in order not to disfigure nature through this, and so on.

The program is inserted into us and we are obliged to obey it and change. There is no getting away from it. Either we speed up our process willingly, which is called Achishena, or it will put pressure on us, and of course, it will take more time and bring more suffering. However, the program is already inserted. That’s it! Now it will start running.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman,” 4/6/20

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Question: If we cannot interfere with nature, then should we let it do whatever it wants? Should you resign yourself, give up?

Answer: First, there is nothing to oppose to nature. This is completely illogical, unreasonable.

Nature is the entire cosmos. These are such inner levels that I do not know at all. Who am I? Just a product of nature. A little bug against her. I cannot even imagine who I am dealing with. Why argue like a small child trying to fight windmills? What is this quixotism?

We should simply understand that we are in a huge, multi-level system, but we do not know where, in what, and how. Therefore, by the measure of our development, we should try to automatically integrate into it.

If we were an inanimate, vegetative, or animate part of nature, we would automatically abide in it as its integral element. But since we belong to the level of Man, besides the fact that we are in nature, we also have an element of egoism that pushes us out of it: I want to be special!

By that, a person is different from animals. It turns out that with his egoism, he is pushing himself out of nature and is suffering as a result.

But the egoism in us is constantly growing, forcing us to be opposite to each other and to the surrounding inanimate, vegetative, and animate nature. In general, this is our evil, our problem, which is called: the evil beginning of man.

It was created so that we recognize evil and correct it into good. Then we can understand the whole depth of nature, how to become integrally connected with it and participate in all its actions.

Therefore, egoism was not given to us so that we oppose nature and put ourselves against it, but that it is with its help that we get in touch with nature, feel ourselves distant from it, draw into it, and interact correctly with it in mutual influence on each other. Then man will become truly on a level with all nature, which means with the Creator. Because nature is the Creator.
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From KabTV’s “Fundamentals of Kabbalah,” 4/19/19

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