Arkady writes:
Dear Michael Laitman,
As I understand it, the Tower of Babel is the root of all troubles. There was one nation, they built a Tower, and the Creator broke it and mixed their languages.
What for? All the terrible things that are happening today are from there.
Please explain these actions of the Creator. You keep saying that He is good. Why did He break the tower, mix the languages, and cause a quarrel between everyone? What for? It all started so peacefully.”
It is written in the Torah (Bereshit, Genesis, 11:4): “And they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make ourselves a name, lest we be scattered upon the face of the entire earth.”
This is how it all started. What is wrong with that, please tell me.
Answer: There is nothing wrong. The Creator did not want it to be like this.
Question: Later it becomes clear that He did not want it to be like this. But what was their transgression? They wanted to build a tower.
Answer: They wanted to be all together, build, and live, be one commune, respect and love each other, and so on. But the Creator wanted it to be according to His conditions and not theirs. This is why He disrupted it all.
Question: What is the Tower of Babel in the spiritual sense?
Answer: It is an egoistic elevation of corporeal life, which is elevated to the state of love for one’s neighbor based on egoism.
Question: Are you saying that this is the main mistake?
Answer: Of course! They do not need the Creator, they do not need anyone: “neither God, nor king, nor hero.” Just us, the common people.
Question: In principle, was this construction of the Tower of Babel by and large at the heart of communism and all revolutions, “peace to huts, war to palaces,” that is, “we will manage?”
Answer: Yes.
Question: When does a person build this inside himself? He is building a career for himself, he is making money, is this when he is gradually building the Tower of Babel?
Answer: Yes, but this is to a small extent. This is not the highest goal. Because in the case of the Tower of Babel, they built it for themselves forever. But here, even though a person is building a career and everything else, he knows that he will die.
Comment: And there, if they could do it, then, as they say, we will reach the heavens.
My Response: Up to heavens, yes. This “up to heavens” is a big problem; the main one. That is, you can build a tower, but do not touch the Creator. You will not reach Him.
Question: Arkady further asks: “What is it that the Creator does not like here?”
“And the Lord said, ‘Lo! [they are] one people, and they all have one language, and this is what they have commenced to do. Come, let us descend and confuse their language so that one will not understand the language of his companion.’
“And the Lord scattered them from there upon the face of the entire earth, and they ceased building the city” (Bereshit, Genesis, 11:6-11:8).
That is, Arkady believes that all the problems began with this.
Answer: Yes. That is, they will not be able to come to a common egoistic result. This result should be: we are all together and therefore we all feel good.
Comment: When we say the phrase: “United nation, we are together, and we will defeat everyone. One nation is invincible”…
My Response: No, this is not enough to defeat egoism. There is also a need for a Creator here. This is the desire of the Creator.
Question: Then on what basis can a tower be built so that it does not collapse?
Answer: Bestowal and love for each other and for the Creator.
Comment: When you say “and for the Creator,” this is difficult. A person does not see or feel Him.
My Response: No, “for the Creator” does not mean some kind of God, somewhere there, so high up that he is not visible. “For the Creator” means a connection between us that we raise above ourselves.
Above yourself, that is, “love your neighbor as yourself.” Then above all this, you raise the ideal of the Creator, who created all this above our egoism.
Question: That is, my nature is “I, and everything is for me,” and here, on the contrary, I want to rise above this so that everything is different, everything is for the other. Is this called building a real tower?
Answer: Of course. Then it will stand forever.
Question: Why do we build towers all the time? After all, it collapsed a long time ago, historically speaking, and we continue and continue to build these towers.
Answer: Humanity needs this. Towers, pyramids, mausoleums—all this is necessary, a person needs it.
Question: Even though they are all falling apart and will definitely fall apart?
Answer: Yes, but we are still building.
Question: Why do we have this in us?
Answer: We need this symbol. We are building a house for our egoism.
Question: So we need a symbol that we can pray for all the time. Is this what they call “praying to other gods”?
Answer: Yes. It can be temples, it can be pyramids, no matter what form it takes.
Question: In what case will we stop building them?
Answer: Only when the Creator is revealed to us.
Comment: At the same time, we do not know when He will be revealed.
My Response: We do not know, but only in this case. Revelation will completely cover our dreams, plans, future, and everything! That is, when He is revealed to us, we will understand that all this was complete nonsense and that we built it all in vain.
Question: You say that the Creator is mercy, kindness, and love all the time, and so on. Why is this such a cruel mercy that it lasts for a long time, that blood has been shed for centuries? Wars have been going on for centuries, but He still does not reveal Himself. Why?
Answer: He is revealed under certain conditions! What do you want from Him? He must be revealed in the state of His absolute unity with people. But it does not exist. And so far, there are no inclinations for this.
Question: The unity of the Creator with people? In which case?
Answer: If we are similar in qualities to Him, that is, if we are like Him, He will be revealed.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 10/30/23
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