Question: Can a Kabbalist raise himself above both the sensation of suffering and the sensation of pleasure?

Answer: Yes, this is the middle line, when he doesn’t depend on either one. We need to yearn for that.

Question: And what happens: am I enjoying or am I suffering?

Answer: For me, both pleasure and suffering are means for attaining adhesion with the Creator.
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From KabTV’s “Fundamentals of Kabbalah” 11/18/18

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