In the News (“The Internet’s Final Frontier: Remote Amazon Tribes,” The New York Times):
The Marubo people have long lived in communal huts scattered hundreds of miles along the Ituí River deep in the Amazon rainforest. They speak their own language, take ayahuasca to connect with forest spirits and trap spider monkeys to make soup or keep as pets.
They have preserved this way of life for hundreds of years through isolation — some villages can take a week to reach. But since September, the Marubo have had high-speed internet thanks to Elon Musk. …
The New York Times traveled deep into the Amazon to visit Marubo villages to understand what happens when a tiny, closed civilization suddenly opens to the world. …
“When it arrived, everyone was happy,” said Tsainama Marubo, 73, sitting on the dirt floor of her village’s maloca, a 50-foot-tall hut where the Marubo sleep, cook and eat together. The internet brought clear benefits, like video chats with faraway loved ones and calls for help in emergencies. “But now, things have gotten worse,” she said. …“Young people have gotten lazy because of the internet,” she said. “They’re learning the ways of the white people.”
Then she paused and added, “But please don’t take our internet away.” …
After only nine months with Starlink, the Marubo are already grappling with the same challenges that have racked American households for years: teenagers glued to phones; group chats full of gossip; addictive social networks; online strangers; violent video games; scams; misinformation; and minors watching pornography. …
Question: What was Elon Musk thinking?
Answer: Elon Musk was thinking about how to sell more to earn more for himself.
Question: So he was thinking about his business?
Answer: Yes.
Question: And what happens when we provide primitive tribes with modern technologies? What does this leap do to them?
Answer: Nothing!
Question: Does it not kill them?
Answer: No. It is like you put something tasty on their plate, and not even on a plate. That is it. They take only the amount they understand what it is.
Question: So you think that their innate primitiveness remains as it is?
Answer: It stays with them, and there will be no acceleration of their development.
Question: Then there is a question. The fact that children are spoiled as the elderly claim, constantly glued to the Internet, stuck in porn sites, and so on, what do you think this will do to the future of this generation? After all, they will no longer shoot monkeys, walk serenely, drink this potion, and call spirits.
Answer: Nothing good will happen. They will get uglier.
Question: They will remain just as primitive, but will be uglier?
Answer: Of course.
Question: So you do not abandon your point of view that they will remain primitive?
Answer: Primitiveness requires very proper care. That is, it is necessary to gradually, in small portions supply them with correct segments of science, literature, art, with everything that can fill them.
Otherwise, they will naturally follow their innate animal instincts. It is the same with us. They will pull out what belongs to them from there.
Question: Can you tell me how all these transformations took place in that case, from the primitive to the slave-owning system?
Answer: The society gradually changes and it gives the younger generations what it considers necessary.
Question: And in this way the slave system arises from the primitive-communal system?
Answer: Yes, it happens gradually. But there were no particular atrocities there. It was all natural for them. It was a natural transition.
Question: We talk about desire all the time. You claim that these primitive people retained the same desire?
Answer: Yes.
Question: Then how did all the transitions from the primitive-communal system to the slave-owning system occur? Did desires change over time?
Answer: Of course. Gradually higher demands began to awaken in them. And in this way they enriched themselves with new knowledge and new services. This is how it all happens.
Question: So we have reached the present time, as it is. Our desire has undergone many changes. What will push us further? And where will we push ourselves next?
Answer: I think that at the end of the day, we will see that everything we have wanted to achieve does not bring us anything good. It does not bring us any special benefits; we get nothing.
Question: And what will it give us?
Answer: For this we will have to work and very gradually develop.
Question: Still gradually?
Answer: Of course. There will be no leap.
Question: So we should not wait for it? That is, the fruit must ripen after all?
Answer: Of course. Why do you need all these leaps and speeding up?
Comment: We want it to be faster.
My Response: Why?
Question: You mean that we have to follow the path of development?
Answer: Of course.
Question: Are you against any revolutions?
Answer: Revolution is suicide. Just look at how children develop. Would you agree to give them some pills so that they develop faster?
Comment: No, we want them to develop as children should.
My Response: Yes, this is the only way.
Question: Is it the same with us?
Answer: Yes.
Question: Do we have to agree with this course of life?
Answer: Yes, this is the greatest wisdom.
Question: And this is the most difficult thing?
Answer: Yes.
Question: Why doesn’t a person want to agree with this? One really does not want to.
Answer: It seems to him that all the good will come tomorrow. But in fact, if you are ready for this “tomorrow,” then let it come to you today. However, as a rule, we are not ready for this.
Question: Is everything really good today? Can we live with it like this?
Answer: No, all the stages and steps by which we develop are necessary for us. Without it, we will not be worthy of what we receive. In general, we must agree with what nature does to us in quantity and quality.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 6/17/24
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