Convention in Krasnoyarsk, “There Is None Else Besides Him,” Day Two, Lesson 3
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Convention in Krasnoyarsk, “There Is None Else Besides Him,” Day Two, Workshop 3
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Convention in Krasnoyarsk, “A New Life,” Day Two, Lesson 4
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Convention in Krasnoyarsk, “We’re All One Family,” Day One, Lesson 1
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Convention in Krasnoyarsk, “We’re All One Family,” Day One, Workshop 1
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Convention in Krasnoyarsk, Day One, Lesson 2
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Convention in Krasnoyarsk, Day One, Workshop 2
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Question: Not long ago they proved the existence of group intelligence scientifically. Several of the leading universities in America arranged an experiment in which they divided people into small groups. It was established that one of the essential factors that influenced the results was the amount of women in the group. Perhaps you can respond to this?
Answer: I have not learned about these experiments, therefore I cannot respond to them. I personally have no data on this subject.
I can say only one thing: Since our society is composed mostly of women, we certainly need to include them in discussions. Groups could be divided into groups of men, women, and mixed groups.
The idea is that it’s desirable to divide the groups composed of ten people according to sex. In spite of it all, differences between the sexes influences the course of our thinking too significantly; therefore, it’s necessary to try to do this so that the men will not divert their attention from the discussions because they feel obliged to play a particular role regarding the women or the women regarding the men.
We need to accommodate them to this kind of condition, where they won’t pay attention to each other’s sexual character, but will see only friends in front of them in order to form a new level of mutual relationships that doesn’t depend on sexual relationships. By the word “sexes” I am referring to both mental and physical characteristics, everything connected to the terms “man” and “woman.” This is not just external, rather it’s a complete image: a form of thought, approach, everything. We are very different from each other.
Therefore, it’s first necessary to conduct separate workshops for men and for women and only after this, to the degree that they rise above themselves and connect to the importance of the task, will it be possible to have mixed groups. This will happen only after discussing many times questions about education, knowledge, relationships within society, the relationship of the person and nature, or even better, what is uncomfortable for them.
If a woman is facing me, I immediately pass to another level of communication; I try not to hurt her, to relate to her with respect, in some kind of discussion in the meantime, to listen….This is a complete system. Completely different levels of communication are included here, which are not according to the intellect, not according to the essential nature. We are different and a special communication adapter appears between us. We need to rise above this difference so it will not exist in this form so I will look at a person with whom I am conversing as “unisex.” This means that we become equal in everything despite our physical differences.
Sometimes it’s the opposite: Suppose when we are discussing questions like family, we need to “highlight” problems. So we are no longer equal in building something higher, we clarify in what way we still remain unequal on the level of our integral unity: men – women, husband – wife. After all, we don’t completely rise without a body! We rise within our nature and this will give us a whole range of problems. We clarify differences between men, women, and children in a format different from the “roundtable” and gradually bring them to where they will rise above their differences and begin to work for the sake of the next goal, integral unity.
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From KabTV’s “Wisdom of the Crowd” 5/14/13
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Question: The integral discussion is a very unique program. Basically, people will come to see how problems that interest them can be solved at the roundtable. However, regular talk shows that attract television viewers generally remind one of conflicts or fist fights.
Answer: I always talk only about our need to influence each other in a positive manner, without “opposition.” You might deny this and say that this is incorrect, unimaginable, and unacceptable, that through this kind of a discussion, we won’t attract anyone, but I know only one thing: A problem cannot be solved through argument.
From the screen, I show the television viewer how a problem can be solved without actually touching upon it because the problem exists on level “A,” and I raise the panelists to level “B.” When I take them to this level and maybe even to level “C” or “D,” they transform into something else.
Question: In Wikipedia, it is written that, in a roundtable, people don’t accommodate themselves to the opinion of the other. Rather, they add their own opinion.
Answer: I relate respectfully to the public roundtables, but integral roundtables are something absolutely different. What I mean is that its form is absolutely different. It is only positive!
In no way should you express opposition. Rather, everyone is completed on a new, corrected level. One doesn’t enter into any confrontations or expressions of dissent. In this way, we are playing at being on the next level; we only add. If someone expresses his opinion, I explain that it is possible to do even better, saying, “Adding to what my friend said, I suppose that we can do more of this and that.”
I am always building our next integral level together with the others. This is based only on agreement between us—only on agreement! We always rise higher and higher. This is never done through opposition and contradiction. There is no opposition and contradiction!
Question: However, if there are no arguments or reservations, we cannot reach a decision.
Answer: If this is a true and proper workshop, the people are like children playing at building a common home. This makes it more exciting and engaging for them than if they were destructive or directed against each other.
I see how children instinctively use this when they want to play together and not alone. When they are interested in the results of their labor becoming some kind of structure, like trains or cities, then something will turn around and they will work together.
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From KabTV’s “Wisdom of Crowds” 5/14/13
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Question: After the Integral Education lessons, people sit in circles and begin to discuss problems. How is this done?
Answer: Generally a lesson with the presentation of clips, pictures, and even breaks goes on for a maximum of one hour, more than this would be difficult for people to keep up with. After that, they must internalize the material that they have learned.
After the talk comes the workshop which must include those questions that were touched upon during the talk in perhaps a slightly different form. So everyone will internalize them, people need to talk about them with friends in the circles. They need to be discussed, felt in the form of questions, in the form of doubts, in the form of some direction, intention, so that the people can reach that opinion to which we wanted to bring them to from the beginning, but now through discussions with others.
From the start we can say to a person that even if he doesn’t agree with something, now he must give a secondary importance to his disagreement. Suppose that he has pre-existing prejudices from the society in which he has been educated and has lived. He must put these prejudices to the side and try, on the contrary, to be an advocate for our opinion and to convince everyone else that the future for which we are now yearning is the only correct and possible one from the present condition in which we now exist. We give him time for this, some advice, and carry on a discussion in this spirit.
That is, we are not trying to lead students into a discussion, but rather to put them into a state where they will imagine the next world, the coming state, play with it, protect it, and convince others that it is correct. Through discussion, a person will begin to see that he gradually truly agrees with it. Therefore we always direct the student not to be defensive and resistant, not to argue; rather, we direct him with positive influences to rise to the state to which we want to bring him.
Question: Is it possible to use the integral method to solve specific problems?
Answer: When we begin to use the integral method, then specific problems will be solved on their own. If I reach a collective where there are differences of opinion and problems, I don’t talk about them at all, I don’t touch upon them. In no way am I going to awaken the “beast” who sits in every one of them because one “match” can set fire to the whole world. This would be the wrong approach. Only by divesting (shedding) ourselves of all problems will we direct ourselves towards our connection.
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From KabTV’s “Wisdom of Crowds” 5/14/13
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Question: In the workshop on the subject of integral unity for married couples, the question was asked: “What do women want from men?” And one of the women said: “I want my husband to survive through all my states.” What does that mean?
Answer: A woman expects fulfillment from a man. She relates to a man as to her source of mental, spiritual, and psychological fulfillment. In some way, she begins to grasp the world through her husband, through the man. It’s specifically what she is waiting for and wants. Without that she doesn’t feel that she is connected to the world, to life as it should be. It’s as if she has no base point, a point of support.
Psychologically, a woman wants to be next to a man who will be as a source of inner fulfillment. For this she is ready to give everything material, everything external, in order to receive from him what she is not able to create herself, meaning mental, spiritual, and psychological fulfillment.
While the man, on the contrary, doesn’t need mental, spiritual, or psychological fulfillment from the woman. He needs support on the regular corporeal level. And thus they come in contact with each other. This is the way nature created us.
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Question: A child who wants to be a designer yearns for his goal and therefore plays at it. However, when we begin to work with a group in a factory—begin to learn, to imagine or to play—this group has no motivation. There is neither a need nor a necessity to become integral. There is no need for them to nullify themselves. Moreover, they explain that, “It is the world that is broken. I am good!”
Answer: This is not important. After all, this is because we are not conducting workshops for beginners. First, we have conversations with them including questions and answers. I don’t start by welcoming discussions and arguments because they must rely on people having serious knowledge. Therefore, our system is composed of learning and workshops.
In this way, the first part is informative where, by showing all kinds of clips and pictures, you can explain to the participants with specific examples about what is happening in nature, with us, toward what we are advancing, and how mandatory and imperative all this is for our salvation.
Motivation is very simple here. Every day we are discovering greater and greater threats from the world around us, from nature, and so forth. If we don’t unite seriously and integrally, then there is a threat to our lives from ecological disaster coming from all around the world, not only from human society.
It also needs to be explained without threats. Rather, all kinds of experts must be invited or interviews with them must be shown in which they explain the necessity for mutual integral cooperation between humans and between them and nature.
We need to give them a general picture of what is happening.
I understand very well that the person is very far from this general picture. He is not concerned about anything other than what concerns him in the present moment. He doesn’t want to see beyond his nose, and he is right! That is how he was created! So, he sees before him a vast world that doesn’t seem to depend on him. Rather, he is included in it only because he needs to live his life and nothing more than this.
However, without threats—rather through education—we show that trouble is already knocking on his door, he then will begin to reflect and think about this.
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From KabTV’s “Wisdom of Crowds” 5/14/13
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Question: An ordinary person gets everything in a particular way: Why do I need to go out to an integral level now? What is this transition? In fact, this is a transition from an ordinary crowd to a crowd with integral consciousness.
Answer: This is a transition to unity. It is very critical that a person change his nature. He must live by other laws and must consider those around him as he considers himself. He must understand and feel that this is good.
So, we must incorporate workshops and talks, or the workshop should come after the conversation when the workshop participants begin to discuss between them what we said. First of all, they confirm that this is realistic. Secondly, they confirm that this is desirable. Along with this, through their sharing and discussion of everything in a group of ten, they are using the common group intelligence.
However, I don’t think a society like this exists today. It certainly depends on what kind of event to which you are coming. For example, if you come to a group of coal miners in Chile or Venezuela, it is very likely that they will not understand this yet. This has not reached them yet; while in North America and Europe, one already can talk quite seriously about the crisis, about how it feels, about the need to solve it and so on. People already are feeling various threats internally. Therefore, they have no particular problems with being motivated.
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Question: If a person has a health problem and goes to the doctor, he is given a prescription for a certain medicine and, then for another, then another, and so on. The principle of integrality is based on the fact that illness is the body’s wise, natural response to a person’s wrong doings; if a person changes, he will not have to depend on medication. This principle was used by ancient Chinese medicine that cared about the balance of a person’s body, between a person and nature, between him and other people, and between a person and himself. So how can we come to balance between a person and nature?
Answer: First, people must be taught the principles of integral education. They should know what man, nature, and the balance between man and nature are, what a society is, what the balance between a person and his social environment that surrounds him is, and about the balance with the society, with the family, and with himself.
All this is integral education, and it includes great knowledge. It is enough, however, to teach a person the basis for understanding these categories without going into great depth, so that he will understand what he should do.
After that, we should conduct workshops and training courses in which people will learn what balance with the environment really is. This balance is built on the simple principle of communicating vessels (connected vessels)—in every society, there is mutual penetration when people connect—so, if in one area there is excess temperature, pressure, or other parameters, they penetrate the places where there is a lack of it, according to size, volume, force, and intensity. These processes of mutual penetration take place until absolute balance in every area of society is achieved.
This happens on all levels of nature: mental, psychological, physical, intellectual, and others.
So, all our training is based on the notion of enabling people to come in contact with the world around them in this manner, but first, not with the still matter, the vegetative, and the animate, but with other people.
If a person enters the level of the right balance between himself and others like him, then it naturally automatically balances him individually and in his relationship with his environment. It is because a person’s communication with others is the best and most efficient means for self-correction, for self-change, for self-control with regard to others, and so forth.
Thus, we get the most accurate picture and the options one has in order to bestow most efficiently on others. So, all our integral education programs are based on mutual cooperation between people and not on a person’s cooperation with nature or with himself in front of the mirror as some kind of inner psychoanalysis. It is attained only between people.
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From KabTV’s “The Medicine of the Future” 4/7/13
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Question: What inner action can I perform in order to help the friends and not just smile at them, but to actually bestow and give internally? I don’t want to just spend some time in the convention and then go home. I want to create and to perform this inner action, so how can I do that?
Answer: We are going to have workshops and you should try to listen to one another, and feel the circle that is formed by your ring. Everyone should lower his head before the others so that he can receive from them. At the same time, everyone can also add to the others, give to them. You should want a special force to appear in the circle, the force that will be shared by all the participants in the circle.
None of us has any feeling or mind of his own left since our own heart and mind belong to the animal, to the donkey, that is left outside the circle. In the circle, however, there are souls and not bodies. You don’t see physical people before you, but only their yearning to connect in order to reveal the Creator. This is for what this exercise is meant.
If we manage to connect correctly, we will begin to feel a certain closeness to something new that we haven’t felt as of yet. There will be a special feeling, a special force that is external to you, that pulls you out of your body. This is the experience we should attain.
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