Question: As we know, American universities are rocked by anti-Israel demonstrations. We are disliked at American universities, particularly prestigious ones: New York University, Yale, Columbia, Harvard, UC LA, UC Berkeley, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, University of Michigan, etc.
In other words, at expensive universities where well-to-do, intelligent, thoughtful students study, anti-Israel sentiment flourishes, that is one thing. But at the same time, as has been the case throughout the centuries, there are strange accusations about everything you can imagine. How does this align with intelligence, development, and sophistication?
Answer: It aligns very simply because one has nothing to do with the other. There can be very serious, educated, intelligent, well-rounded people, and at the same time regarding Israel and the Jews, they…
Comment: Will repeat the most terrible, most absurd rumors about leprosy, poisoning wells, and so on.
My Response: Exactly. They will repeat anything you can think of.
Question: Can you explain what this is? How do all these absurd accusations align with a person’s intellect and reason?
Answer: They do not fall within the same domain as human reason. Completely different centers are activated, and a person begins to shift to a completely different mindset and starts listening to and believing what they are told.
Comment: Predominantly, the sponsors of these universities are Jews and Jewish organizations. In principle, both the administrators of these universities and the students understand that they would not have scholarships, for example, if Jews stopped supporting these universities. There would be no salaries for teachers, and so on. What is happening to reason here? It is like I am biting the hand that gives.
My Response: No, I do not think they are so afraid that these donors will stop funding them.
Comment: Really, even though they declare that they do not want to accept donations from anyone connected with Israel?
My Response: They wish to “cleanse” themselves.
Question: Is this above money, above everything?
Answer: Yes. They think that this call will affect those who are still donors, and they will give even more to show that they belong to a different kind of people.
Question: Are you hinting at Jews now?
Answer: Yes, at Jews of course.
Question: So Jews will pay for anti-Israel propaganda?
Answer: Of course.
Question: Where is the logic here? We keep circling around this, that there is no logic here either.
Answer: There is no need for logic.
Question: What am I “cleansing” myself of? I continue to pay to Harvard University, let’s say, I am a Jew…
Answer: Yes. You think this is a good university, and it produces good specialists, and you are for pluralism.
Question: I see. So I am for democracy, freedom, and so on, right?
Answer: Yes.
Comment: Now please tell me. I am Jewish, I am studying at this university. Everything around me is full of posters and demands for the destruction of Israel.
My Response: It does not affect you; you walk with your nose held high and do not notice these posters.
Question: Is this me, a Jewish student?
Answer: Yes.
Question: But is this a good situation? I mean, I go on and still feel like a Jew, and I go…
Answer: I don’t know how you feel like a Jew. Even if you feel like a Jew, you must show where you agree and disagree with the Jews.
Question: So I can even join them?
Answer: Yes of course. Absolutely!
Question: Tell me, is there a connection? If I continue studying at this university, does it mean that I support all this anti-Israel fuss there?
Answer: No, not necessarily.
Question: But I continue studying there? Is that right? Or should I leave this university in protest?
Answer: You are asking me about completely different things now.
Question: Yes, it is a different area. I am asking you what is the right thing to do?
Answer: I believe that Jews should not be in such universities. They are exposed to a direction of hatred that will force them to renounce their Jewish identity.
Question: Then tell me, do you think Jewish sponsors should withdraw from these universities?
Answer: Of course!
Question: How do you think Israel should fight this?
Answer: I don’t think Israel can fight it. It is just a phase. I hope that someday it will pass, although it is still unknown when. But if Jews start leaving these places, others will feel it in their wallets, in the support, in everything.
Question: So, you think if you feel it in your wallet, in your salary, in the fact that the university is becoming poorer, your brain will start to work?
Answer: Of course.
Question: So should Jews leave such universities both as sponsors and students?
Answer: Yes.
Question: They should not support them in any way?
Answer: In no way.
Comment: All right. I see that graduates from these universities: Yale, Harvard, and so on will be leading the country in 10 to 15 years. That is definitely in America.
My Response: Yes.
Comment: So in 10 to 15 to 20 years America will no longer support Israel in any way.
My Response: Probably.
Question: Will Israel be able to exist without this support on its own?
Answer: It is certainly difficult. But here arises the question of the survival of the State. I believe we need to turn to the upper force, to the Creator.
Comment: You are saying it will be difficult.
My Response: It will be difficult.
Question: It will be difficult and therefore we must turn to the upper authority?
Answer: Yes.
Question: In principle, this is where things are heading?
Answer: Yes.
Comment: As I see it, America will eventually become anti-Israel. We understand about Europe, too, that it will also abandon Israel. In one way or another, looking at the future, Israel remains alone. That means Israel must become a kind of fortress.
Answer: Yes.
Question: How can it become this fortress?
Answer: By firmly standing its ground.
Question: And what is my Israeli ground?
Answer: It is that I unite around our goal and bring the people closer to the Creator.
Question: What is our goal, the goal of the people of Israel?
Answer: The goal is to explain to the entire world the method, the intention, and the purpose of the existence of humanity.
Question: What is it?
Answer: To attain the upper force.
Question: Is that the goal?
Answer: Yes.
Question: So must the people of Israel unite around this goal and stand as one?
Answer: Yes and then, no matter what happens, they will stand strong.
Comment: And all these enemies around us, and everything they will do…
My Response: There will be none…
Question: So if we connect to the upper, our security is guaranteed?
Answer: That is why we are placed in such conditions.
Question: So you just said that America, Europe, and our surroundings are being pushed from above to make us turn to the upper?
Answer: Yes that is what is said and what is written.
Question: Without such suffering, is it possible to turn to the Creator through reason or heart without being pressured?
Answer: No, it is impossible.
Comment: You have a very firm rule: you always say that without these sufferings no progress is possible.
My Response: No.
Question: So are you a materialist here? Are you saying this material must be squeezed?
Answer: Yes.
Comment: And only then will it…
My Response: Start to move.
Question: Is the movement the address to the Creator?
Answer: Yes.
Question: What do we say? How do we address the Creator?
Answer: We ask for help. Help us unite. Help us be stronger. Not stronger than anyone else, but just by ourselves. We do not need strength to oppress anyone. We need strength to counter our own egoism. Then everything will fall into place.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 7/29/24
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