Comment: It is known that shame is inherent only to man. When we say “burn with shame, be ashamed of your deed, ashamed of your thoughts,” we refer to man. But I look at the world today and think: “Where is the shame? Where is the shame of being rich in this world where the whole world is starving?”
My Response: People remove everything from the world that is unpleasant to them, maximally. And so they bring themselves to a state where they have nothing to be ashamed of.
Question: That is, we are constantly afraid that we will be burnt by shame and we seemingly erase it?
Answer: Of course. Instead of correcting yourself so that you are not ashamed, correcting the world so that you do not see such manifestations you are ashamed of, it is better to erase them.
Question: You said: “There are two ways out. The first way is to erase the shame and the second way is to work with it, to correct the world.” Almost no one goes for the second one. Everyone goes for erasing the shame. Correct?
Answer: Of course. It is easier. In erasing the shame, you are not erasing it alone. You are gradually changing the laws, the restrictions of society, and therefore, society becomes such that it is no longer ashamed of what it used to be ashamed of, and people feel better. You kind of introduce such laws so as not to be ashamed.
Question: So what have we turned the world into?
Answer: We have built it on the clear basis of egoistic desire without any moral foundations. This can be seen especially in our politicians—in all of them. They have no ideals but only one thing: “I am a fakir for an hour.”
Comment: But such a world should in theory explode.
My Response: Yes, but it will explode not because we become different, but because we are in nature, which ultimately accumulates all negative phenomena in it and then raises humanity to a new level.
Question: And the negative phenomena in it are from us, from what we are?
Answer: Only from people, not from animals.
Question: So we actually transmit all the hatred there?
Answer: We are at the lowest point in the development of all nature.
Question: If our shamelessness constantly enters nature, then forces accumulate there to subdue us?
Answer: The worse the better. It is nearer to the end of egoistic rule.
Question: So you expect much bigger problems to follow after these viruses?
Answer: It was always like that. At all stages of human development, this was how it moved forward. It strives toward some new goal, egoism manifests in it, humanity still survives until it is thrown out from within to the next stage.
Question: Then where will nature lead us with its strong blow and pressure?
Answer: To the fact that we can no longer exist according to egoistic laws. We will have to change our behavior, our laws, our inner foundations. This is a very difficult job, but humanity will come to a state when these lies all around us— these fanatic rules—present, human rules—they will manifest in an explosive way.
Question: And the injection of shame will be introduced in man by nature?
Answer: Not only shame. There will even be no shame. It will be the revelation of the true state that we must achieve. And it will stand before us as a model from which we cannot escape. And we will definitely come to the conclusion that love and hunger will rule the world and not some false slogans invented by modern savages.
From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 9/2/21