Question: The basis of the spiritual world is the importance we attach to it. The sources say that there is only a gram of light and a gram of desire, and everything else is determined by how we treat it, what importance we give to this or that phenomenon. How does this happen?

Answer: We are used to the fact that in our world desires and fillings have some kind of metric proportionality: meters, cubic meters, parsecs, distances, tons, etc.

And in the spiritual world there are no earthly dimensions. Everything there is measured only by feelings, by the relationship of one to the other. Therefore, if I am concerned about a gram of some material, which for me may be more valuable than the entire universe and all life, since, let’s say, this gram is the birth of a new life, then I treat it as something that fills the entire universe. It is more to me than anything else. This is how the spiritual magnitude of an object is measured.

In other words, a spiritual object has neither geometric nor metric dimensions and is determined only by the magnitude of my attitude, my attention, and the greatness of the object in my eyes. These are purely subjective measurements.

Question: In principle, does a person who attains spirituality, a Kabbalist, enjoy not what the Creator gives him, but how important the Creator is in his eyes?

Answer: He does not feel what the Creator gives him. He feels only in the measure of the greatness of what the Creator gives him.

Question: Take an example from our world. Let’s say a cup of coffee is also from this single force. I can just have a coffee. But if some important person made it for me, I would naturally be filled not only with a drink, but also with the importance of this person, how great he is in my eyes, in the eyes of the whole society. Is that how it works?

Answer: Yes.

Comment: But still, there must be some kind of material…

My Response: There must be material in our world. That is why we start with the material world, which is created so that we can move from it to other, more abstract categories.

Question: So I have to treat all the pleasures of this world in the following way: it is given to me by the Creator, and I only lack the importance of the one who gives it to me?

Answer: Yes, but when I begin to develop importance to the one from whom I receive, and it is in me more than the importance of the received object, then I move on to other dimensions.

That is, the object itself no longer matters in my eyes. What matters is the importance of the one who gave it to me. And then I move from the sensations of our material world to the dimensions and sensations of the upper world: I received this from the Creator.
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From KabTV’s “Spiritual States. The Significance of the Spiritual” 5/21/19

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