Peace Will Come Only in One Case

962.6Question: Vladimir writes: “I have analyzed all sorts of conflicts in different historical periods. I came across an unexpected conclusion. The closer nations feel each other, the more intense hatred appears between them. Strangers can come to an agreement, but relatives are ready to fight until complete destruction. They do not agree to anything else.

Why can hatred between alien, distant nations end in peace, and hatred between close nations should end with the death of one of them?”

Answer: This is this very egoism that does not tolerate anything that exists next to it.

Comment: It would seem that with somebody close, you can somehow negotiate.

My Response: No! If he is close, but I hate him, I do not like him, and I do not somehow correspond to him, or him to me, then egoism is manifested to a great extent between us. As Vladimir writes, close countries especially hate each other.

Question: What conclusion can we draw here? At what point can close people become really close? Anyway, they are pushed to face the fact that they are close, after all.

Answer: Only love! Otherwise, if they just coexist side by side, it is an underdeveloped society, a society with underdeveloped egoism.

Question: In principle, if we are talking about countries, should the governments develop only love?

Answer: Yes.

Question: What do you mean by this word?

Answer: What does love mean? This is when I feel directly physically connected to the other, dependent on him, and he on me. In such a way that I cannot do without him, and he cannot do without me. This state of ours obliges us to take care of each other.

Question: Do I then have a desire for him to feel good all the time? To make him happy?

Answer: I think about him because by doing this I also ensure a good existence for myself.

Comment: You are not destroying this egoistic foundation. It exists all the time.

My Response: It is necessary. There is no getting away from it. This is like in a couple where they love each other, but it is egoistic love. They understand that it will be worse for them without each other. They take care of each other because in this they each take care of themselves.

Question: When does war happen, when does hatred happen, at what point?

Answer: It is when these ties are torn. When I am not worried about the other, then I start fighting with him. There can be no peace. There can be peace only when we are dependent on each other, and this dependence is mutual, and we must definitely be together.

Question: Does it mean that your main advice is to build such connections that it will be impossible to break them later?

Answer: Yes, depend on each other in everything. This is how it is in general nature, in space, everywhere.

Question: If we are talking about governments, is their main concern how they can no longer exist without another? I do not exist without the other, right?

Answer: Yes.

Question: Then what happened in the world? Why is it like this?

Answer: People have become independent. They believe that they can exist without the other, conquer the other, and so on. But in fact, this is not the right principle.

Question: But we have always said that the world is absolutely interconnected for us today. Why do we not see it?

Answer: We see. This is why the world still exists and depends on each other. Well, you see how this mutual dependence is used. In fact, they lead themselves toward impoverishment, death, and so on.

Question: Does the principle “So that I feel good, and so that he does not feel good” still rule?

Answer: Unfortunately, a person does not understand this general law that he can feel good only if everyone feels good.

Otherwise, everything is constantly boiling in a pot of hatred. This is our egoism, which the Creator created so that we would see that we cannot get along with each other in any way. The only way is to accept the governance of the Creator, the governance of love, and cover everything with this feeling, with this attitude.

Question: Is it this egoism that I have to cover with love?

Answer: Yes. This is what we need to implement every day. Remind each other every day, talk about it every day, and so on.

Comment: A person has a feeling all the time that the work must end one day. But you say it will never end.

My Response: Never. You have to think every day about how much you love another person and hear the same thing from him.

Comment: This requires not just mental strength, but upper forces!

My Response: When you realize that this is inevitable, then it does not seem hard for you.

Question: Is there a moment when it becomes an easy path?

Answer: Yes. It becomes second nature.

Question: What is needed for close people to exist in peace and love?

Answer: They should need each other. Need! Not in order to suppress and get rid of each other and be free, but due to the fact that their life, freedom, and existence depend on the other. All this closed nature will eventually lead us to this.

Question: What does “closed nature” mean?

Answer: An interconnected system of nature.

Question: So, is it for a reason that we are now being shown that we are interconnected?

Answer: Of course, it is in order to lead us to take care of the other.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 1/26/23

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