But whilst our globe, sirs, seeks in vain
The path of happiness to gain,
Honor the madmen who can trace
Gay dreams, to please the human race.
Pierre-Jean de Béranger, “Madmen”

Question: What do you think about this Quatrain?

Answer: It’s romance.

Question: Our viewers and readers write that they relate this verse to you. The beginning of the verse I can understand “But whilst our globe, sirs, seeks in vain the path of happiness to gain.” Well, it really seeks in vain. However, are you not offended when they say “Honor the madman”?

Answer: No, of course not. Would a sane person do what I do, go against nature? Really! Against the normal, healthy nature of egoism that is in each and every person, with which everyone agrees, and I try to direct them against themselves.

Question: Are you going against corporeal logic?

Answer: Against nature, not against logic. Logic is something abstract. We are talking about nature, the law of nature, which is in us, in our bones, it is simply instilled within us. And I say, “No, we have to go in a different way.” How can we go in a different way?

Comment: And then “Gay dreams, to please the human race.”

My Response: This, of course, is a dream, a fantasy, a fiction. This is certainly something very abstract and almost unbelievable, this thing we fantasize about, talk about, and dream about.

Question: Is the fact that we can connect into one organism, one humanity, one family, as Baal HaSulam writes like a “gay dream”?

Answer: Of course.

Question: Are you convinced that this will happen?

Answer: Without a doubt! This is initially inherent in nature, and only later was there a special egoistic counter made in it, which controls us. Practically all of nature within itself, except for this superficial egoistic addition, is absolutely altruistic. It cannot be different, because it is one, interconnected, and all its parts, organs, and systems work in absolute homeostasis, in absolute unity.

Question: When you say that, I absolutely agree with you. Why does a person agree when you speak?

Answer: Because it is logical: all nature is one, it acts with one force, according to one formula, for one movement forward.

Question: Then why when I go a few meters away or after a while I hear something else, I forget all this, it is erased from my memory?

Answer: You go back to yourself. When you go back to yourself, you forget what was said. This is not yet yours, does not yet live in you as a law within your individual system. Therefore, you go back to your system.

Question: How did this conviction grow in you?

Answer: It takes time. Only time. 20 to 30 years.

Comment: Can you give advice to the person who really wants to come to this connection?

My Response: Only through the group where everyone wants it and supports each other, because everyone supports themselves through the others.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 10/1/20

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