Answer: That depends on the perspective through which I look at such circumstances and phenomena. A Kabbalist can see them in the ordinary form like all the other people. He can also see their spiritual roots and can see them in the parts of the corrected state until it is completely corrected.
Everything depends on how a Kabbalist wants to use these states. They all exist in the spiritual world, but a Kabbalist chooses which is the most beneficial for him.
From the Kabbalah Lesson in Russian 1/29/17