Question: Benjamin writes:

As long as I can remember I have been in pain! Pain when I was beaten in the courtyard. Pain for the dog that was poisoned by neighbors. Pain that I cannot take revenge. Pain from divorce. Pain, pain… All of life is pain! Is it really impossible to live without pain? Is it possible not to feel pain?

Answer: No, it is not possible to be without it. Each of us feels pain, and everyone has their own reasons for it and their own memories. We cannot do anything about it until the full correction of the world.

Question: And why is such pain given to a person—until he screams?

Answer: It is so that a person realizes that he must break away from it. Pain helps us. Just like pain during illness. It indicates that something is wrong with you, and that is why you rush to the healers. Otherwise, you would put your hand in the fire and sit calmly while it burns.

Question: In other words, our destiny is to be in pain?

Answer: Yes. Pain is a very good quality, a sense of malfunction in a person.

Question: Are you even suggesting now that it is possible to try to love pain?

Answer: To love, I do not know to what extent to love, but to love the manifestation of pain that pushes you toward healing.

Question: And how can I come to conclusion during the pain that it is a correction, that it is pushing me? Here he talks about inner pain, and about soul pain, and about such pain… He combined everything.

Answer: Any kind of pain.

Question: Are you also combining everything into one pain?

Answer: Absolutely, it does not matter whatsoever. And then you start to feel that this pain is for your own sake.

Question: How can you draw the right conclusions during pain? When you are in pain, you only feel pain.

Answer: All you feel is pain, but you begin to understand that it is meant to remind you that you are not okay, that you have to do something to get rid of it. In other words, pain is designed to get rid of pain. And this is your salvation.

Question: Then the question is: how to actually get rid of it?

Answer: Discover the cause of the pain and distance from it first of all. And then explore and understand that maybe the very cause of pain is for you, for your benefit, and you should be content that it exists.

Question: Can you name the main cause of pain?

Answer: The main cause of pain is that a person does not want to feel pain. If he was to tell himself that I am ready to feel pain, then by moving in that direction, he would cease to feel it. It is not easy, but it is possible.

Question: It means that if you as if approach it and accept it, then it begins to subside?

Answer: Yes. Then you start to feel its opposite side.

Question: This is his second question: “Is it possible not to feel pain or to rise above it?”

Answer: It is possible to rise and it is possible not feel pain if a person wants it. Everything depends on the awareness of evil. If a person senses evil, then he is ready to endure any pain in order to get rid of this evil to the extent of the awareness of it.

Question: When you say “awareness of evil,” it is awareness of what—my nature or…?

Answer: My nature or the pain it evokes in me. I am ready to endure. And so much so that I do not feel pain.

Question: So it is like surgery, where this evil is cut out from me?

Answer: Yes, and it needs to be cut out, I am ready for it! I cannot live with it.

Question: How can one come to this sensation of evil?

Answer: It is coming. When it is necessary, it will come.

Question: But are we being guided to this?

Answer: We are being guided to a realization that pain is salvation. It indicates what is bad in us. And we must agree to the removal of the cause of pain in order to achieve good.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 10/19/23

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