Comment: Viktor Frankl, physician and psychotherapist, survived inhumane conditions in four different concentration camps including Treblinka, Theresienstadt, and Auschwitz. He and others survived thanks to his theory of how to survive in inhumane conditions.
But the most interesting thing is that he did not try to test it himself, but passed everything on to other people. He did it all for them—how to survive—and a lot of people survived. He wrote about it in several books. Please comment on his points on how to survive in inhumane conditions.
The first point, and this is the main point for him, says: “Those who have a ‘why’ to live, can bear with almost any ‘how’.”
My Response: Why is the goal. And how is already the achievement of the goal.
Question: But how can one slip out from under the weight that has fallen on a person, the hopelessness?
Answer: By always figuring out how to get closer to the goal. And that keeps you going. The goal attracts you, it shapes you, it sets out how to live your life, and every moment of time you know how to use it.
Question: Should these be some kind of intermediate goals?
Answer: This is the ultimate goal, which is being determined every single moment of time.
Comment: The second point: “In inhumane conditions, only those who are looking to the future, who dream of fulfilling their destiny can survive.”
He hits this point all the time.
My Response: Yes, it is natural.
Question: If I am looking to the future, I what? I do not notice what is happening around me?
Answer: No, you look at everything around you as conditions for achieving that goal.
Question: So you are kind of saying that this is what is given to me in order to achieve the goal?
Answer: Yes. And this is all I need in order to formalize the final goal.
Question: So at some point you can even be thankful for the most terrible obstacles?
Answer: Of course. You feel and eventually reveal that everything that happens is just for you to achieve—you, personally—your goal!
Comment: The third point: “No one has the right to commit lawlessness, even the one who suffered from lawlessness, and suffered very cruelly.”
My Response: There is a global law of the universe, and you should therefore treat everyone at a given time as a person who is fulfilling his higher destiny.
Question: Even an enemy?
Answer: Even more so. And then you will do the right thing, survive, and achieve your goal. Meaning, you create it yourself by your correct attitude to everyone: to the enemy, to a friend, to everyone. You shape yourself internally by this, you correct yourself all the time and thus approach the final goal—the kind that you should eventually find.
Question: Is it possible at all?
Answer: This is in general, in other words, our path.
Comment: “Every person is irreplaceable, and his life is unique. And therefore, each person’s task is as unique as his ability to perform this task is unique.”
Question: Is this how to look at yourself and other people? Is that the right way to look?
Answer: For each person, yes it is something unique.
Question: So I cannot take one’s life or rape in any way, nothing?
Answer: You cannot do anything.
Question: And what relationships should I be in, in this case, if it is unique? My life and his life are unique.
Answer: You should look at it as if you are in exceptional circumstances in every moment, which you must use according to the rules of absolute cooperation, that is, for the absolute balance of you and the world around you.
Question: And what should you do during war when there are countless victims?
Answer: Even more so. Then those feelings intensify.
Question: So both the person who kills and the person who defends come somehow to this state?
Answer: Not everyone. But if a person thinks about his real true realization, then he comes to the conclusion that every life is unique and individual.
Comment: The following principle: “The meaning of my life is to help others find meaning in theirs.” That is what you usually say.
My Response: This is absolutely ours.
Question: But he was not a Kabbalist, how did he come to this?
Answer: You do not have to be a Kabbalist for this. You just have to be a person who is looking for the essence of life. And then he sees that the essence of life is to reveal the essence of life to other people.
Question: Tell me, when does a person come to this height? Usually a person lives in order to find the meaning of his own life.
Answer: This is how the search for one’s life leads a person to the fact that he sees that he can realize it through the meaning of others’ lives by giving them the meaning of life.
Comment: “Love is the ultimate and highest goal to which man can aspire. The salvation of man is through love and in love.”
My Response: Yes. This refers to love, understanding the essence of nature, which consists in such a connection of all people when they do not feel that they are separated. This emerging sense of community, being in one desire, is the achievement of the goal of life.
This one desire, the connection of all into one desire, this is love.
Comment: “Even the helpless victim of a hopeless situation, facing a fate he cannot change, may rise above himself, may grow beyond himself, and by so doing change himself.”
My Response: When a person stands in front of the absolute, in front of the fact that he cannot change anything, then he understands the need to change himself, that this is the only way to do something, to continue the correct existence in the world in general, in the fact that I change myself. From this moment on, to the following, to the next, and to the next, step by step to live your life in such a way that you change yourself at every moment.
Question: You welcome dead ends, right?
Answer: How can you do without them? If a person does not feel a dead end, then he is not moving forward.
Question: Is a hopeless state a way out for you?
Answer: Yes, it is like a toy car. It bumps into something and starts turning. If it bumps into something again, it has to turn again. And so it searches all the time until it discovers from all the possibilities that there is a way out.
Question: As a result, does a person who moves from a dead end to a dead end necessarily find a way out?
Answer: Certainly. Everything is programmed.
Question: So I, in principle, as a person should sing a hymn to a dead end?
Answer: Of course! This is the strength of our formation.
Comment: But I always want to avoid dead ends. Man wants to avoid them.
My Response: Can you really make the right decision without a dead end?
Comment: It is unlikely.
My Response: Not possible.
Question: What is the right decision that humanity should make today?
Answer: It is the same in all cases—annul yourself.
Comment: “Annul yourself, “this is clear for your students.
My Response: And for the rest, it should become clear.
Question: What do you mean by the word “annul”?
Answer: It means that I do not decide what to do, I do not decide the goal, I do not depict it for myself and then try to achieve it. I can only do one thing: annul myself in front of others so that they achieve their goal.
If my goal is something other than helping others, then I am standing in their way. If I annul myself, then I help them go to their goal. And in the end, everyone should be busy utilizing themselves in this way—helping others achieve their goals.
Question: What happens to my “I”?
Answer: That is when this “I” manifests itself as a general collective in which the upper force of nature is revealed, the only force that exists and guides.
From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 3/7/22