Question: Churchill gave a speech to the boys at Harrow School. “This is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”

Question: What does “never, never, never give up” mean for you?

Answer: It means to constantly, very often at least, feel disappointed, and wish to just give it all up, cut off from the whole world, disconnect yourself from it, and so on. And start over in a minute. Give up again and start over again.

I do not think there is such an idiot that never gives up. Churchill was not like that either.

Not giving up means that even when you give up, you must understand that there is a force acting upon you now that simply pushes you to finish what you are doing and start a new phase.

Question: Are you saying that it is as if one phase ends and next one begins? And there is always such a fall in this transition?

Answer: Absolutely! Otherwise, you cannot start anything new if you do not get disappointed in the past. You must experience it as if it were death. That is, nothing remains! Not even me, of course, first of all—me. Everything falls into oblivion!

Question: So, where do the forces to get out of this state come from?

Answer: Precisely because you want to simply part with all this and cut it off, it is from this that a new stage begins, from scratch.

Question: This is how you perceive it. But what about an ordinary person?

Answer: The same.

Question: Are thoughts to give up everything, to leave everything, good thoughts?

Answer: Good thoughts. Without them, you will have nothing new.

Question: And you say the same to an ordinary person?

Answer: Everyone needs it because all of nature is based on the fact that two states constantly change: reception and bestowal, plus and minus, darkness and light, and so on. Therefore, the next ascent is impossible without disappointments.

Question: Are there such phenomena when a person goes through life and never gives up?

Answer: Only if he is an idiot. I have met such people. But they are trained to be so if they are not born that way. And they are like wind-up toys: there is a key in the back, they have been wound-up, and have been like this all their lives.

May you have many mornings, evenings, days, and nights, and may they change very quickly. The most important thing is to live as many lives as possible during one lifetime.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 2/11/21

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