Question: You once said that there are many souls that are revealed without clothing in bodies in this world. The body is a help for interaction between souls. But there are forms of souls that are not able to understand where they are. Does it mean that there are souls that perceive this world and others that do not feel this reality?

Answer: In the beginning, a desire was created that was obligated to descend to the very bottom, to a complete disconnection from the light. Only from this lowest state, standing on it with its own feet, does it begin to properly attain itself. But not in the place where we are now, in bodies, because the lowest state is considered to be the state in which we begin to feel the Creator.

Our current state is completely disconnected from the true reality. We exist as if in an unconscious state. We are turned and moved around, but we ourselves, in essence, do nothing. Various actions are performed on us, actions we must go through in order to develop the initial feeling of the light in ourselves, that is, the quality opposite to ours.

As soon as we become able to feel it even a little, to become aware of it, to understand it, then we will immediately find ourselves truly existing on the minimal spiritual degree. And our prior state is like an embryo in a mother’s womb, that cannot be spoken of as existing because the mother does everything for it, and it is only a preparatory process for the birth of the organism.

Although we speak of it as something that exists, something that cannot be killed, still, in any case, it is nobody and nothing. Right now, we are in exactly such a state.

But as soon as we rise to the first spiritual state, its growth begins. That is, we will continuously grow head upward, higher and higher, until the world of infinity, passing through 125 degrees, just as, for example, a human being grows from zero to 125 centimeters.
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From KabTV’s “I Got a Call. Soul Without a Body,” 10/5/10

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