All people lie, but it’s not scary, no one listens to each other.

My Response: The scary thing is that they do not listen. That is true.

To listen means to realize, to understand. Not necessarily to agree but to understand what the other means, why he has such a worldview.

Comment: To let him a little bit inside you?

My Response: No, not even to let him in. Enter into him and understand how he acts, how he thinks. It may well be that his way of thinking, his approach to life is correct. Try to argue with him, to align with him somehow, and so on.

That is what it means to listen to another. Listening means, first of all, to understand.

Question: Do you think people listen to each other or not?

Answer: No. Egoists cannot listen to each other. They are initially tuned to clearly satisfy their egoism.

Question: Meaning, only to push through their own opinion?

Answer: Not only their opinion but to achieve whatever I desire. That is the foundation of all of my behavior, and no one can move me from it. Only under the impact of enormous suffering can I somewhat change my opinion; still egoistically, leaning one way or another, and again continue to move egoistically.

Comment: This, in principle, is the cause of absolutely all troubles—people do not listen to others.

My Response: That is how we were created. After all, we come from the shattering of the common soul, the common desire. Therefore, in each of us there is an egoistic desire that acts only within itself. Each of us lives inside himself.

Comment: If a person heard that this is the result of his egoistic nature, would that be the beginning of a small shift?

My Response: No, it will not help. To hear is not enough; that is the point.

Here, upper forces of nature are necessary, hidden forces within nature that could help us become different, the opposite of our present state. And that requires a whole method.

Question: Do you think Einstein understood that there are hidden forces of nature?

Answer: He did not understand the possibility of changing man.

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.

My Response: That is correct. Because we cannot imagine how simple, near, and opposite to us the upper world is, the world of bestowal, of love, when we perceive everything in connection and not in separation, in isolation from one another.

Comment: We say: “Love, it is so simple! Let’s unite, let’s love each other.” And you say: “It is not so simple!”

My Response: No. I say: “It is not so simple,” because we are not capable of doing it.

We should not keep falling into the same trap again. Besides, love is not what we define in our world as love—some hormonal, psychological, or sexual satisfactions. No.

What is meant is the connection of people among themselves in inner unity, when we feel that not our bodies (bodies as if disappear), but we ourselves are inwardly interconnected, that some kind of inner joining, merging takes place, and this creates a new community, an inner, spiritual one. In this inner, spiritual community, we begin to feel ourselves living as if in another bubble, in a new world.

Question: Is this love?

Answer: This is achieved by love. Such a connection is called love.

If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?

Question: You often speak about the perception of reality. An empty desk, what does that actually mean?

Answer: It is an allegory. In general, a person who has no inner thoughts, no struggle, no constant confusion, no constant searching, he does not move forward, does not develop. He must always doubt himself and constantly investigate.

Question: Is this what you call life?

Answer: Yes. But when we look at such a person, we think: “He probably does not know anything. He is probably unsure.” In reality, it is the opposite.

Animal-like peace kills everything. That, of course, is terrible! We hope that the Creator will watch over us and not let us have peace.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman,” 9/24/24

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