Question: I change, and the world changes. Is that the formula?

Answer: That is the formula. But who changes me?

Question: That is the important question. Is it the Creator who changes me? In response to what? Or is it simply His will?

Answer: It is so that I can gradually determine that I am under His authority and that He governs the world that He alone created. And I am grateful to Him for having carried me through all these metamorphoses.

Comment: But until that happens…

My Response: It doesn’t matter. A person does eventually reach such a state when he dies. Then he understands and realizes.

Comment: I will ask you carefully: “Who is he?” You said: “A person dies,” and then you say, “he understands and realizes.”

My Response: The person, in his soul.

Comment: But he’s dead.

My Response: And what does “dead” mean?

Comment: That is interesting. What does “dead” mean? You said: “A person dies and then understands.”

My Response: And then he understands, realizes, that the Creator led him through all the states of this life.

Question: But who is he? Who understands?

Answer: The person.

Comment: But he is no longer here. He died.

My Response: Was he buried or burned? So what?

Question: And where is he, the person?

Answer: The spirit. That is the person.

Question: So is this spirit immortal?

Answer: Of course. What, do you think, it is just a piece of meat?

Question: So, are you saying that there is something eternal in a person, which feels everything, passes through everything, and only that exists?

Answer: Yes.

Question: And this outer shell, what is it?

Answer: That you may bury.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman,” 12/8/25

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