Question: Two chipmunks sit under the warm September sun and one asks the other: “Tell me, what is the meaning of life?”

The second chipmunk thought and said: “Remember last year? There was a drought, the forest was burning, there was nothing to eat, hungry foxes were looking for us, and we were hungry. We had to run around to survive. We were not looking for this meaning. It turns out that there was one then. Look now that we are safe, foxes and people do not bother us, there is a lot of food, life is okay, but we are looking for this meaning. Does that mean we lost it?”

The chipmunk’s logic is ironclad. Why don’t we look for the meaning of life when we feel good.

Answer: What for? There are no desires; there is enough of everything. Therefore, we are not looking for any meaning in life. Life is right there. Is it fulfilled? Yes. Does it give us all sorts of pleasures? Yes.

Question: So, does life have meaning?

Answer: No, there is no meaning to life, but there is no suffering.

Question: Does this mean the Creator must do some kind of trick to make us look for the meaning of life?

Answer: Certainly.

Question: Is this necessary?

Answer: Yes, how else could it be? What about a child? If you do not force him, he will not grow.

Question: So I have to push all the time. Your conclusion is that a person must experience suffering.

Answer: Yes, but people do not understand. They think: “Let’s remove suffering from the world, and it will be a good world. Why didn’t the Creator create it like that?” It is because otherwise, humanity would not advance.

Question: If there were sunshine, we would go outside, feel good, smile at each other, and live, live, live. Are you saying that the world would stagnate in that case?

Answer: Yes, you would see the whole world, how it just lies there, people dying, everything is fine and rotting away.

Question: That is if there is no suffering?

Answer: Yes.

Question: People will never understand this. A person does not want to suffer, isn’t that right?

Answer: Yes, but in principle, we must raise our mental level and our requirements and look at ourselves from the outside.

Question: One way or another, does suffering lead to something?

Answer: Suffering leads to awareness of its cause. When we suffer, we want to know why and how to overcome it.

Question: What is the main cause of suffering? It must lead to something someday.

Answer: Gradually, suffering leads humanity to the realization that man is the whole cause of suffering.

Comment: I start with the fact that my neighbor, or neighbors, or the neighboring country…

My Response: We have gone through this a long, long time ago. If we really wanted to know the cause of suffering, we would quickly understand that it is in our egoism.

Question: Is it in us? Is this the main thing that drives us?

Answer: Yes.

Question: The moment  I understand that the whole cause of suffering is in us, in our egoism, what happens? Does suffering stop? Is there no need to drive us away?

Answer: Certainly.

Comment: If we say that the Creator pushes humanity through suffering, then He calms down when we understand that the whole trouble is in us.

My Response: He does not calm down. The Creator does not need to change Himself. If we change, suffering disappears.

Question: The whole problem is in me. I finally understand it. What next? What are my next steps?

Answer: If I strive to eliminate suffering, I look for its cause. If my hatred of everything around me causes my suffering, I change my attitude toward everything.

Question: Do I always have to tune in my hatred?

Answer: Yes, gradually, gradually by changing it, I begin to feel that this is leading me to a good life. That is all. As soon as I rise above this hatred or replace it with love and a warm attitude, the suffering stops.

Question: What is this life called? This is no longer earthly life because our lives are different.

Answer: It doesn’t matter. Let’s call it earthly.

Question: Is this how man and humanity start living?

Answer: Yes.

Question: Is this possible? Do you believe in it? It sounds logical.

Answer: I do not believe in it. But if we wanted, we could realize how we can force the Creator to change us so that we do this.

Comment: Meaning, we would feel that the whole reason…

My Response: The whole reason is hatred.

Question: And we should ask Him?

Answer: Yes, we must ask Him. That is all.

Comment: This is a different psychology, the “I can change” psychology. You say that I cannot change.

My Response: I cannot change in any way. The only thing I can do is to ask the Creator to change me. And then the sun will shine.

Question: We do not feel or see the Creator. We pronounce the word “Creator,” and despite this, is my appeal to that which I do not see and do not know or understand at all effective?

Answer: Yes.

Question: So are you in favor of a person who does not understand anything and still turns to the Creator? You say it will work.

Answer: Yes, it will work. We see small children and newborns crying. What they are crying about is unclear, but it is a sign of their bad feelings.

Question: They cry: “Make me feel good!” Should a person do the same?

Answer: Yes.

Question: But in principle, his cry should be, as you say: “Turn my hatred around, make me loving”?

Answer: But this is already conscious, and there are other states.

Question: This is a high state. This is what we must come to, exactly?

Answer: Yes.
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 3/4/24

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