Question: Today Israeli society has become divided between those who are for judicial reform and those against judicial reform, those on the right and those on the left. Demonstrations that demand a change of government are taking place, and so on.

I am concerned about the issue of the army. We have reservists who are essentially the backbone of the army. There are special units and pilots, those who continue to serve with consent and willingness after completing their regular service.

And now for the first time, certain incidents have started happening where they refuse to serve. They say they don’t want to serve under a dictatorship. It’s all related to judicial reform with which they disagree.
In your opinion, do they have the right to do this or not?

Answer: I think this is a problem in all armies around the world.

Comment: But still, I’m considering the fact that we have a unique army. After all, it’s a defensive army. We are a small piece of land where every person is important and has his or her place, and suddenly they expose the front.

My Response: Yes, I believe that the army should be above everything because life is above everything, and then we can deal with the rest.

Question: So do you mean that a person’s life comes first?

Answer: Yes, and the life of the state as well.

Comment: And we are specifically here to protect the lives of people and the state. And if they revolt from within and say, “This is a dictatorship. I don’t want to serve under this regime. I want a change.”

My Response: They are obligated to protect people’s lives!

Question: Another question is if an incident were to occur, and considering that we are still in constant wars, from the government’s or the army’s perspective, do you think they should call these officers back or not?

Answer: They should call them back. There should be no leniency, no postponement, nothing! Everyone has their place, and everyone should be in their place.

Question: What do you think a person feels when he exposes the front? Why can he do it today? In the past I would never have thought of such a thing. In the past they all served willingly; it was a duty. But today they can suddenly say such things and suddenly expose the front. What do they feel when doing that?

Answer: I can’t even say. I have a very clear opinion about it.

Question: Do you remember how it was in your time? I know you served in the technical support units of aviation. That’s the most serious part of our army.

What was the feeling then? It’s called miluim, those who serve after the army until the age of forty and beyond. Did they have a strong sense of duty?

Answer: Of course. There was no question about it.

Question: What do you think has changed over the years?

Answer: Decline! Simply a decline because personal interests have become more important than national interests.

Question: Is this what you constantly say, that egoism is growing?

Answer: Yes, and it is even worse. It means that a person starts to prioritize their own opinion over the existence of the state.

Question: What do you think awaits us if this continues?

Answer: I think that in this way society will find a new worldview system.

Question: So do you see a positive aspect in this as well?

Answer: Where else can it go? If this weren’t going on with the Jews, we could talk about a civil war. But here I think it won’t come to that anymore.

Question: In your opinion, what kind of army will protect and see this as a great privilege? What should there be?

Answer: There should be an internal restructuring of society—the army, political parties, and the entire state.

Those people who consider the state their own should understand that they are mutually obligated here. There is no escaping that.

Comment: It’s interesting that our enemies, who in principle surround us and do not wish for the state to exist, do not force us into a rigid position where you cannot leave the army—it’s your post, you are obligated! Something has happened.

My Response: Their concept is different, new. They believe that gradually over time we will disintegrate on our own.

Comment: Yes. Hezbollah, our neighbor to the north, says that they can calmly deal with us now that we have internal discord and instability.

My Response: Yes. Today, thanks to our neighbors, the army should be strong, and everyone understands this more or less. And to some extent we can allow ourselves to argue and debate. But we must understand that there is a border and our life is within it. So thanks to our neighbors who keep us on our toes!
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From KabTV’s “News with Dr. Michael Laitman” 3/30/23

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